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> We finally have data to back up the benefits of developer experience Any manager who was waiting on the "data" (read: sponsored study) that you need to inves

by rcbdev 3y ago

> We finally have data to back up the benefits of developer experience Any manager who was waiting on the "data" (read: sponsored study) that you need to invest in proper tooling for your devs isn't going to do anything significantly different because of it.

helicalmix 3y ago
This feels like an uncreative statement though, as there are many different ways to use this data. For example, what if an engineering manager needs to convince finance for headcount to hire a devex employee?
- geekjock 3y ago
  +1 If you read the introduction of the paper, you'll see that the aim of this paper is to give managers and developers concrete data to use to help get buy-in on investing in developer experience from business leaders. https://queue.acm.org/detail.cfm?id=3639443 https://queue.acm.org/detail.cfm?id=3639443
shermantanktop 3y ago
You need to think like a desperate manager. Yes, I know, I know. The job of a manager is to make good choices and decisions. In the absence of an obvious best choice, they have work backward from both success and failure scenarios, including the political and social impacts. In the absence of external studies and data, if they make an investment in this area and it turns out not to help, they will be left telling their boss things like "everyone says this is right, not sure why my project didn't work." But a flimsy fig leaf that comes from outside and smells objective is a perfect CYA tool that allows the manager to take a risk while anticipating the need to manage and contain failure. Does that describe a healthy dynamic and a smart organization? No, but it's reality at many places.
elzbardico 3y ago
Sometimes the manager knows it, but the manager have managers who need to have some external justification to cover their assess. It is basically the same principle that drives hiring consultants to say exactly the same thing the team have been saying for years.
baq 3y ago
This is just the whitepaper to cover the manager's manager ass.

by rcbdev 3y ago

helicalmix 3y ago

This feels like an uncreative statement though, as there are many different ways to use this data. For example, what if an engineering manager needs to convince finance for headcount to hire a devex employee?

geekjock 3y ago
+1 If you read the introduction of the paper, you'll see that the aim of this paper is to give managers and developers concrete data to use to help get buy-in on investing in developer experience from business leaders. https://queue.acm.org/detail.cfm?id=3639443 https://queue.acm.org/detail.cfm?id=3639443

shermantanktop 3y ago

You need to think like a desperate manager. Yes, I know, I know. The job of a manager is to make good choices and decisions. In the absence of an obvious best choice, they have work backward from both success and failure scenarios, including the political and social impacts. In the absence of external studies and data, if they make an investment in this area and it turns out not to help, they will be left telling their boss things like "everyone says this is right, not sure why my project didn't work." But a flimsy fig leaf that comes from outside and smells objective is a perfect CYA tool that allows the manager to take a risk while anticipating the need to manage and contain failure. Does that describe a healthy dynamic and a smart organization? No, but it's reality at many places.

elzbardico 3y ago

Sometimes the manager knows it, but the manager have managers who need to have some external justification to cover their assess. It is basically the same principle that drives hiring consultants to say exactly the same thing the team have been saying for years.

baq 3y ago

This is just the whitepaper to cover the manager's manager ass.