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That's not how the justice system is supposed to work. Better to let 10 guilty go free than convict 1 innocent.

bnralt 3y ago
Do you really think there should be no limit to the state refusing to protect citizens from violent criminals? Here are a few recent examples from my city: Woman’s violent stalked is let out of prison early. Goes and threatens woman, who calls police. Prosecutors decline the case. Goes back and beats up woman. Prosecutors decline the case. Goes back and murders the woman[1]. Woman is caught on video trying to murder someone with a gun. Plea bargain is given where she serves no time. Soon afterwards she’s charged with murdering someone else[2]. Little to no time for trying to murder someone with a gun is surprisingly common here. A guy is found with an illegal gun, but judges toss the case because they said the police officers weren’t allowed to ask if the man had a gun before approaching him. Days later, he’s charged with murder[3]. Man shoots several people and murders one in a mass shooting. Is arrested, but judge let’s him out before trial. Over the course of the next two years, he’s arrested several times for other crimes, but is still allowed to walk around free awaiting trial (this is a mass shooter!). Finally is arrested again after two separate shooting incidents, including shooting a gun into a house with a baby inside[4]. Violent criminal with a long history commits an armed robbery with a gun, but it allowed to walk free awating sentencing even after another judge said he was too violent to be released. Skips out of sentencing for weeks, then stabs a woman to death.[5] It actually took me a while to dig these up, because I just had to go from memory about local cases I came across the past couple of years, and these things aren’t well documented or reported on (I had to go to Bing to find an local article about the mass shooter who’s been allowed to walk around committing crimes for years, because Googling his name didn’t bring up articles). It’s fine to say we should err on the side of innocence, but at some point you’re erring on letting violent criminals murder people. [1] https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/dc/stalking-murder-dc-sylvia-matthews-southwest-michael-garrett-alleged-homicide/65-4dfabc18-d683-4d67-ba30-12755d65b115 https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/dc/stalking-murder-... [2] https://dccrimefacts.substack.com/p/call-them-they-wont-do-anything https://dccrimefacts.substack.com/p/call-them-they-wont-do-a... [3] https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/08/25/dc-murder-gun-case-dropped/?pwapi_token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJyZWFzb24iOiJnaWZ0IiwibmJmIjoxNjkyOTM2MDAwLCJpc3MiOiJzdWJzY3JpcHRpb25zIiwiZXhwIjoxNjk0MzE4Mzk5LCJpYXQiOjE2OTI5MzYwMDAsImp0aSI6IjVhMWU1NmUyLTljNzEtNDMxZC04NTE3LWYwNDM1NzgwMzY5NiIsInVybCI6Imh0dHBzOi8vd3d3Lndhc2hpbmd0b25wb3N0LmNvbS9kYy1tZC12YS8yMDIzLzA4LzI1L2RjLW11cmRlci1ndW4tY2FzZS1kcm9wcGVkLyJ9.F0cuTWFNKNWqlgVbyuwEosho69pgYHM4K2VmaHsHEr0&itid=gfta https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/08/25/dc-murder... [4] https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/maryland/gerald-thomas-2-shootings-30-minutes-apart/65-48b9f2a1-e8af-4844-862e-e57dcdff183f https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/maryland/gerald-tho... [5] https://www.fox5dc.com/news/woman-stabbed-to-death-inside-ivy-city-hotel-room-was-in-dc-for-a-concert https://www.fox5dc.com/news/woman-stabbed-to-death-inside-iv...
graphe 3y ago
What happens when the 10 guilty kill again? Worth it? That's not justice that's a shithole with no cops.

Do you really think there should be no limit to the state refusing to protect citizens from violent criminals? Here are a few recent examples from my city: Woman’s violent stalked is let out of prison early. Goes and threatens woman, who calls police. Prosecutors decline the case. Goes back and beats up woman. Prosecutors decline the case. Goes back and murders the woman[1]. Woman is caught on video trying to murder someone with a gun. Plea bargain is given where she serves no time. Soon afterwards she’s charged with murdering someone else[2]. Little to no time for trying to murder someone with a gun is surprisingly common here. A guy is found with an illegal gun, but judges toss the case because they said the police officers weren’t allowed to ask if the man had a gun before approaching him. Days later, he’s charged with murder[3]. Man shoots several people and murders one in a mass shooting. Is arrested, but judge let’s him out before trial. Over the course of the next two years, he’s arrested several times for other crimes, but is still allowed to walk around free awaiting trial (this is a mass shooter!). Finally is arrested again after two separate shooting incidents, including shooting a gun into a house with a baby inside[4]. Violent criminal with a long history commits an armed robbery with a gun, but it allowed to walk free awating sentencing even after another judge said he was too violent to be released. Skips out of sentencing for weeks, then stabs a woman to death.[5] It actually took me a while to dig these up, because I just had to go from memory about local cases I came across the past couple of years, and these things aren’t well documented or reported on (I had to go to Bing to find an local article about the mass shooter who’s been allowed to walk around committing crimes for years, because Googling his name didn’t bring up articles). It’s fine to say we should err on the side of innocence, but at some point you’re erring on letting violent criminals murder people. [1] https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/dc/stalking-murder-dc-sylvia-matthews-southwest-michael-garrett-alleged-homicide/65-4dfabc18-d683-4d67-ba30-12755d65b115 https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/dc/stalking-murder-... [2] https://dccrimefacts.substack.com/p/call-them-they-wont-do-anything https://dccrimefacts.substack.com/p/call-them-they-wont-do-a... [3] https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/08/25/dc-murder-gun-case-dropped/?pwapi_token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJyZWFzb24iOiJnaWZ0IiwibmJmIjoxNjkyOTM2MDAwLCJpc3MiOiJzdWJzY3JpcHRpb25zIiwiZXhwIjoxNjk0MzE4Mzk5LCJpYXQiOjE2OTI5MzYwMDAsImp0aSI6IjVhMWU1NmUyLTljNzEtNDMxZC04NTE3LWYwNDM1NzgwMzY5NiIsInVybCI6Imh0dHBzOi8vd3d3Lndhc2hpbmd0b25wb3N0LmNvbS9kYy1tZC12YS8yMDIzLzA4LzI1L2RjLW11cmRlci1ndW4tY2FzZS1kcm9wcGVkLyJ9.F0cuTWFNKNWqlgVbyuwEosho69pgYHM4K2VmaHsHEr0&itid=gfta https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/08/25/dc-murder... [4] https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/maryland/gerald-thomas-2-shootings-30-minutes-apart/65-48b9f2a1-e8af-4844-862e-e57dcdff183f https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/maryland/gerald-tho... [5] https://www.fox5dc.com/news/woman-stabbed-to-death-inside-ivy-city-hotel-room-was-in-dc-for-a-concert https://www.fox5dc.com/news/woman-stabbed-to-death-inside-iv...

graphe 3y ago

What happens when the 10 guilty kill again? Worth it? That's not justice that's a shithole with no cops.