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So it would be okay to rape him in jail if he was in fact correctly convicted?
by paxys 3y ago
So it would be okay to rape him in jail if he was in fact correctly convicted?
- IanCal 3y agoNo, that's a terrible take on what's happened here. The headline is not only was he arrested but also raped.
- PaulHoule 3y agoIt is one thing to get arrested and spend some time in jail if you don't face a life-changing assault. It is another thing if you do.
- staminade 3y agoNo. Why do you think that? There's nothing in the article to suggest it.
- paxys 3y agoThat's the implicit assumption because a regular "man raped in jail" headline has never made it to the top of HN. People are only concerned here because (1) he was innocent and (2) AI was involved, otherwise the usual reaction from the public at large is "good riddance". If society as a whole is okay with prison rape then it is also occasionally going to happen to innocent people, and we have to be okay with that as well.
- kenjackson 3y agoBecause this is hacker news and not prison news.
- JumpCrisscross 3y agoIt’s a greater injustice that he is innocent, yes. That doesn't imply the inverse, a guilty person being raped, is justified. In the same way anyone being raped doesn’t justify another being petty burgled; one is just worse than the other.
- CogitoCogito 3y agoWasn't everyone he was with in pretrial detention? Hence none of them were guilty? That said I think any jail or prison officials are failing just as badly if their inmates are raped regardless of their convictions.
- xigoi 3y agoHow would the article be relevant to Hacker News if AI wasn’t involved?
- Karellen 3y agoHow many other news stories about the horrors of people being raped in jail have you read recently? And then one news story that does come up is "Isn't it terrible that this innocent person was raped in jail?". Not "Isn't it terrible that this person was raped in jail?" with the fact that they're innocent being in the 8th paragraph of the story. I think there's definitely an inference to be made that the author probably wouldn't have written the story if the victim didn't appear to be obviously innocent. Clearly implying that the rape of guilty people isn't quite as worthwhile commenting on. Because... that doesn't matter as much? The article doesn't have to explicitly suggest it. The fact that this article was written at all, when hundreds of articles about incidents which were similar in many ways except one, is suggestive enough in itself.
- enobrev 3y agoI don't disagree with your point, but this is a false premise.