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Strong agree on (1). I don't mind the copyright violation personally, but as an academic who develops these types of problems, attribution would be the polite t

by bo1024 3y ago

Strong agree on (1). I don't mind the copyright violation personally, but as an academic who develops these types of problems, attribution would be the polite thing to do.

mindcrime 3y ago
> I don't mind the copyright violation personally, but as an academic who develops these types of problems, attribution would be the polite thing to do. Is there a copyright violation? Totally not a copyright lawyer (or any kind of lawyer) but I thought basic facts, mathematical relationships, etc. were not eligible for copyright. At least for something like: Find the derivative of X^2 + 2x + 3 I think the problem and the solution aren't subject to copyright. I guess a complex word problem might be though, since the prose part would normally be subject to copyright anyway? Not sure being part of a math problem would change that. I dunno. I could be totally wrong about this. Any copyright experts around to chime in? Google's Generative AI feature says the following, but not sure how much trust to put in that. --- According to Bytescare, mathematical formulas, problems, proofs, and theorems are not copyrightable. This is because math is considered a "truth" and is not necessarily invented but discovered. However, the content of a math book, including diagrams, word problems, and illustrations, can be copyrighted. According to the Copyright Advisory Network, word problems may fall under copyright, but problems containing only numbers and symbols probably do not. ----
terribleperson 3y ago
I don't disagree that attribution would be polite (in fact I think a lack of attribution is impolite), but I don't believe mathematical problems are generally copyrightable.
- bo1024 3y ago
  I'm sure it depends on the situation, but I doubt for example that you could legally copy 50 pages of problems out of one book and sell them in another book verbatim.

by bo1024 3y ago

Strong agree on (1). I don't mind the copyright violation personally, but as an academic who develops these types of problems, attribution would be the polite thing to do.

mindcrime 3y ago

> I don't mind the copyright violation personally, but as an academic who develops these types of problems, attribution would be the polite thing to do. Is there a copyright violation? Totally not a copyright lawyer (or any kind of lawyer) but I thought basic facts, mathematical relationships, etc. were not eligible for copyright. At least for something like: Find the derivative of X^2 + 2x + 3 I think the problem and the solution aren't subject to copyright. I guess a complex word problem might be though, since the prose part would normally be subject to copyright anyway? Not sure being part of a math problem would change that. I dunno. I could be totally wrong about this. Any copyright experts around to chime in? Google's Generative AI feature says the following, but not sure how much trust to put in that. --- According to Bytescare, mathematical formulas, problems, proofs, and theorems are not copyrightable. This is because math is considered a "truth" and is not necessarily invented but discovered. However, the content of a math book, including diagrams, word problems, and illustrations, can be copyrighted. According to the Copyright Advisory Network, word problems may fall under copyright, but problems containing only numbers and symbols probably do not. ----

terribleperson 3y ago

I don't disagree that attribution would be polite (in fact I think a lack of attribution is impolite), but I don't believe mathematical problems are generally copyrightable.

bo1024 3y ago
I'm sure it depends on the situation, but I doubt for example that you could legally copy 50 pages of problems out of one book and sell them in another book verbatim.