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Ok, I'll bite. Which governments are you referring to? And how are they doing this? And how do you know of this?

by shafyy 3y ago

jtc331 3y ago
Isn’t it true that it’s already widely known that some US states (or the US itself; can’t remember details) stores DNA of anyone ever booked by the police even if not charged or charged and acquitted?
lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 3y ago
I’m not the person you’re responding to but their claim doesn’t seem so contentious. > Which governments are you referring to? Any that has an intelligence service. (And probably most others too.) > And how are they doing this? They get the data from breaches like this or otherwise purchased from services like this. > And how do you know of this? I’d suspect less that they know and more that they have a reasonable suspicion. I personally have that suspicion because 1) it’s feasible and 2) governments would be interested in the data.
wonderwonder 3y ago
That's how they caught the golden state serial killer https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/dna-from-genealogy-site-used-to-catch-suspected-golden-state-killer-1.4637726#:~:text=World-,DNA%20from%20genealogy%20site%20used%20to%20catch%20suspected%20Golden%20State,to%20find%20a%20DNA%20match https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/dna-from-genealogy-site-used-t.... Also, the government keeps all DNA from people arrested (not convicted) for anything https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/your-dna-police-database-flna6c10617124 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/your-dna-police-database-...
bayindirh 3y ago
Many nations have public gene banks. These banks contain many indigenous organisms' gene sequences as well as anonymized gene sequences from people from their respective countries, which is used for national and international medical research. These gene banks exchange information regularly. One of the most public ones is US' own NIH GenBank [0]. A small search surfaces a lot of gene banks which store human and non-human DNA. Use your favorite search engine for this. Generally submissions are done with patients' consent, but I'm not very sure that some of the blood samples are directed to national private databases for countries' own use and research. The reasons doesn't have to be nefarious. Knowing your population's genetic weaknesses is a good way to defend it, and having access to a wide pool allows a deeper understanding of genetic conditions and how genetic therapies are working. Also, earlier comments than mine already cited how law enforcement in US is already using this as evidence. I'm an ordinary person. I don't have access to more information than you do. [0]: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/genbank/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/genbank/
- shafyy 3y ago
  That's crazy that US law enforcement is storing genetic data about people they arrest. I understand that governments would store the data with consent from people, but without consent is not great...
ellingsworth 3y ago
"How to get a free genealogy test, courtesy of the Hampden DA’s office" https://www.masslive.com/news/2024/01/how-to-get-a-free-genealogy-test-courtesy-of-the-hampden-das-office.html https://www.masslive.com/news/2024/01/how-to-get-a-free-gene...

Ok, I'll bite. Which governments are you referring to? And how are they doing this? And how do you know of this?

by shafyy 3y ago

Ok, I'll bite. Which governments are you referring to? And how are they doing this? And how do you know of this?

Isn’t it true that it’s already widely known that some US states (or the US itself; can’t remember details) stores DNA of anyone ever booked by the police even if not charged or charged and acquitted?

lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 3y ago

I’m not the person you’re responding to but their claim doesn’t seem so contentious. > Which governments are you referring to? Any that has an intelligence service. (And probably most others too.) > And how are they doing this? They get the data from breaches like this or otherwise purchased from services like this. > And how do you know of this? I’d suspect less that they know and more that they have a reasonable suspicion. I personally have that suspicion because 1) it’s feasible and 2) governments would be interested in the data.

wonderwonder 3y ago

That's how they caught the golden state serial killer https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/dna-from-genealogy-site-used-to-catch-suspected-golden-state-killer-1.4637726#:~:text=World-,DNA%20from%20genealogy%20site%20used%20to%20catch%20suspected%20Golden%20State,to%20find%20a%20DNA%20match https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/dna-from-genealogy-site-used-t.... Also, the government keeps all DNA from people arrested (not convicted) for anything https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/your-dna-police-database-flna6c10617124 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/your-dna-police-database-...

bayindirh 3y ago

Many nations have public gene banks. These banks contain many indigenous organisms' gene sequences as well as anonymized gene sequences from people from their respective countries, which is used for national and international medical research. These gene banks exchange information regularly. One of the most public ones is US' own NIH GenBank [0]. A small search surfaces a lot of gene banks which store human and non-human DNA. Use your favorite search engine for this. Generally submissions are done with patients' consent, but I'm not very sure that some of the blood samples are directed to national private databases for countries' own use and research. The reasons doesn't have to be nefarious. Knowing your population's genetic weaknesses is a good way to defend it, and having access to a wide pool allows a deeper understanding of genetic conditions and how genetic therapies are working. Also, earlier comments than mine already cited how law enforcement in US is already using this as evidence. I'm an ordinary person. I don't have access to more information than you do. [0]: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/genbank/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/genbank/

shafyy 3y ago
That's crazy that US law enforcement is storing genetic data about people they arrest. I understand that governments would store the data with consent from people, but without consent is not great...

ellingsworth 3y ago

"How to get a free genealogy test, courtesy of the Hampden DA’s office" https://www.masslive.com/news/2024/01/how-to-get-a-free-genealogy-test-courtesy-of-the-hampden-das-office.html https://www.masslive.com/news/2024/01/how-to-get-a-free-gene...