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> Funny, I call the Outback an AWD station wagon, not an SUV at all. Then you're going to need to come up with some better way of defining what a Bad Vehicle i
by danaris 3y ago
> Funny, I call the Outback an AWD station wagon, not an SUV at all.
Then you're going to need to come up with some better way of defining what a Bad Vehicle is if you want to change policy/culture, because your definition of an SUV doesn't match with reality.
When you say something like "we need to make SUV drivers feel ridiculous and humiliated", but you're using a definition of "SUV" that you made up in your head, you're not communicating anything useful or productive to the world at large.
- FooBarBizBazz 3y agoWe can probably make this more objective by aiming for lower hood heights and lower vehicle masses. Or, crash tests, which currently privilege the driver and passengers, should also consider other road-users, like pedestrians, cyclists, and the drivers of other vehicles -- especially small ones. Fair point though. It's merely a marketing term of the car industry to begin with.
- CRConrad 3y agoEasy: Bad Vehicles are over-heavy, fuel-guzzling, dangerous-to-others (body-on-frame, high bonnet, bull bars...) things that are sold as "trucks" or "SUVs" -- you know, the original trucks and SUVs, which definition many people who know shit about cars and trucks remember and still use. Most things that are sold as "trucks" or "SUVs" nowadays aren't necessarily Bad Vehicles, seeing how they're just station wagons on stilts with faux-macho design plastered over the outside. They only lean towards the Bad Vehicles side of things when that silly design goes too far towards dangerous-to-others (high square bonnets, shooting-slit visibility etc) in the name of faux-macho buyer appeal. Detach the bull bars from your Outback and you'll probably be OK.