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> As someone with an A-level in philosophy: What is reason? Maybe you are better off answering that question then. But I would define ability to reason as the

> As someone with an A-level in philosophy: What is reason? Maybe you are better off answering that question then. But I would define ability to reason as the ability to make logic conclusions based on input from a feedback loop. Let's use programming as an example. You write some code you think will work. You run it. It outputs the wrong values. You reason about the code, realize your mistake. Fix the code. Run again. It outputs the correct values. ChatGPT cannot do any of this. All it can do, is spit out text that it deems probable to belong to previous text it already generated. This is based on probability, but it completely lacks a reasoning part and a feedback loop. > The original, or the current one? Ironically, I think either would be a case where ChatGPT works best. Show me a prompt that produces either one.

ben_w 3y ago
> ChatGPT cannot do any of this. All it can do, is spit out text that it deems probable to belong to previous text it already generated. This is based on probability, but it completely lacks a reasoning part and a feedback loop. 50% of the time, if you give it source code and an error, it can fix the source code and tell you why. The other half I still get paid for. > Show me a prompt that produces either one. K, if I remember by the time I've done the higher priority things, I'll send you a repo with as much of it as I can be arsed to ask for to prove the point, along with the share link to the chat session.
- ben_w 3y ago
  > Show me a prompt that produces either one. Note how you only need to ask for each feature and in it goes. Sometimes there's a bug or three, but you can generally fix them by describing them. https://chat.openai.com/share/e2a6b513-c088-449d-8d8f-4f4c73892f11 https://chat.openai.com/share/e2a6b513-c088-449d-8d8f-4f4c73... I won't ask for the rest of the features, because it's boring. What I bring to the market right now, might be merely knowing what to ask. -- Oh yeah, I said repo as well. Note the commits are copy pasting blindly. I don't do JS professionally, I'm an iOS dev: https://github.com/BenWheatley/JSPaint https://github.com/BenWheatley/JSPaint
  - shzhdbi09gv8ioi 3y ago
    You must be kidding right? Your chat demonstrates most of what I brought up: * it only spits out snippets * it cannot produce an app * it is hallucinating * it is creating more work than just doing the work yourself And its a web app, but that's on you for requesting that for some reason. I asked for a MS Paint app. That would mean something that produce a Windows compatible EXE, not a some html fest. > I won't ask for the rest of the features, because it's boring. Or, because it's infeasible and you know it.

ben_w 3y ago

> ChatGPT cannot do any of this. All it can do, is spit out text that it deems probable to belong to previous text it already generated. This is based on probability, but it completely lacks a reasoning part and a feedback loop. 50% of the time, if you give it source code and an error, it can fix the source code and tell you why. The other half I still get paid for. > Show me a prompt that produces either one. K, if I remember by the time I've done the higher priority things, I'll send you a repo with as much of it as I can be arsed to ask for to prove the point, along with the share link to the chat session.

ben_w 3y ago
> Show me a prompt that produces either one. Note how you only need to ask for each feature and in it goes. Sometimes there's a bug or three, but you can generally fix them by describing them. https://chat.openai.com/share/e2a6b513-c088-449d-8d8f-4f4c73892f11 https://chat.openai.com/share/e2a6b513-c088-449d-8d8f-4f4c73... I won't ask for the rest of the features, because it's boring. What I bring to the market right now, might be merely knowing what to ask. -- Oh yeah, I said repo as well. Note the commits are copy pasting blindly. I don't do JS professionally, I'm an iOS dev: https://github.com/BenWheatley/JSPaint https://github.com/BenWheatley/JSPaint
- shzhdbi09gv8ioi 3y ago
  You must be kidding right? Your chat demonstrates most of what I brought up: * it only spits out snippets * it cannot produce an app * it is hallucinating * it is creating more work than just doing the work yourself And its a web app, but that's on you for requesting that for some reason. I asked for a MS Paint app. That would mean something that produce a Windows compatible EXE, not a some html fest. > I won't ask for the rest of the features, because it's boring. Or, because it's infeasible and you know it.