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Is this a joke? Did you read about this case? Because that is basically what happened. Some people got parts of their things back.

by bagels 3y ago

EasyMark 3y ago
I read the article. The article ruled they broke the terms of the warrant. How in the world do you think that the FBI wouldn't bag and tag stuff if they planned on using it in court at a later date? Any fresh out of school lawyer could get that tossed in a heart beat. The people will get back their stuff after the appeals. How could they do that without the fbi tracking what was in the SDBs?
- MertsA 3y ago
  Not this article, there's been plenty of reporting on this case as the seizure happened back in March 2021. He's not exaggerating, the FBI has "lost" the contents of some of the boxes when some owners fought back on the civil asset theft. https://youtu.be/O436x2zbRwI?si=dB7GFWxpguEOObr8&t=235 https://youtu.be/O436x2zbRwI?si=dB7GFWxpguEOObr8&t=235
- Geisterde 3y ago
  This is assuming the fbi doesnt drop the case and keep the goods.
- bagels 3y ago
  Apologies for being flippant, I thought you were trolling. The FBI has lost (or stolen) some of these people's items. https://ij.org/press-release/innocent-security-deposit-box-renters-demand-fbi-return-missing-property/ https://ij.org/press-release/innocent-security-deposit-box-r...
- justanorherhack 3y ago
  No they won’t this is a highly public case because of their mishandling of all of it. They are claiming they can’t give people back their things and much of it was “lost”. Another addition to the long list of civil forfeiture cases in which us law enforcement legally steals people’s assets without consequences. They are incentivized to do so as local and federal agencies get kickbacks from what they seize. They’ve taken tens of thousands of dollars from taxpayers with little to no cause. Look up civil forfeiture.
- phpisthebest 3y ago
  >>How in the world do you think that the FBI wouldn't bag and tag stuff if they planned on using it in court at a later date? Any fresh out of school lawyer could get that tossed in a heart beat. Well it make sense when you understand that the FBI is not about seeking "justice", it is about enforcement and punishment. The process is their goal, to make peoples lives miserable and to do "street justice" not to win in the court system and get a conviction Further in this case, was also "Policing for Profit" which is what the entire civil asset forfeiture scheme is about. This naive view that the FBI, or law enforcement in general, today is about "protecting the public" and "getting justice for victims" is laughably absurd

Is this a joke? Did you read about this case? Because that is basically what happened. Some people got parts of their things back.

by bagels 3y ago

Is this a joke? Did you read about this case? Because that is basically what happened. Some people got parts of their things back.

EasyMark 3y ago

I read the article. The article ruled they broke the terms of the warrant. How in the world do you think that the FBI wouldn't bag and tag stuff if they planned on using it in court at a later date? Any fresh out of school lawyer could get that tossed in a heart beat. The people will get back their stuff after the appeals. How could they do that without the fbi tracking what was in the SDBs?

MertsA 3y ago
Not this article, there's been plenty of reporting on this case as the seizure happened back in March 2021. He's not exaggerating, the FBI has "lost" the contents of some of the boxes when some owners fought back on the civil asset theft. https://youtu.be/O436x2zbRwI?si=dB7GFWxpguEOObr8&t=235 https://youtu.be/O436x2zbRwI?si=dB7GFWxpguEOObr8&t=235
Geisterde 3y ago
This is assuming the fbi doesnt drop the case and keep the goods.
bagels 3y ago
Apologies for being flippant, I thought you were trolling. The FBI has lost (or stolen) some of these people's items. https://ij.org/press-release/innocent-security-deposit-box-renters-demand-fbi-return-missing-property/ https://ij.org/press-release/innocent-security-deposit-box-r...
justanorherhack 3y ago
No they won’t this is a highly public case because of their mishandling of all of it. They are claiming they can’t give people back their things and much of it was “lost”. Another addition to the long list of civil forfeiture cases in which us law enforcement legally steals people’s assets without consequences. They are incentivized to do so as local and federal agencies get kickbacks from what they seize. They’ve taken tens of thousands of dollars from taxpayers with little to no cause. Look up civil forfeiture.
phpisthebest 3y ago
>>How in the world do you think that the FBI wouldn't bag and tag stuff if they planned on using it in court at a later date? Any fresh out of school lawyer could get that tossed in a heart beat. Well it make sense when you understand that the FBI is not about seeking "justice", it is about enforcement and punishment. The process is their goal, to make peoples lives miserable and to do "street justice" not to win in the court system and get a conviction Further in this case, was also "Policing for Profit" which is what the entire civil asset forfeiture scheme is about. This naive view that the FBI, or law enforcement in general, today is about "protecting the public" and "getting justice for victims" is laughably absurd