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Kinda neat to turn on the Navigable By Boat filter and zoom in on England to find where I live, and all the 2500 miles of actually connected and navigable Engli

Kinda neat to turn on the Navigable By Boat filter and zoom in on England to find where I live, and all the 2500 miles of actually connected and navigable English (and Welsh) canals and rivers I’ve been on over the last seven years. Or course there’s also a whole lot of “waterways” that sure as hell aren’t navigable by any boat that can support a human, but might have been at some point.

bemusedthrow75 3y ago
Yep. The first one I went looking for was the Fleet, which is something of a ghost river at the end of its journey.
s3krit 3y ago
I went straight into these comments hoping to find another HN (potentially narrow) boater! What's interesting and somewhat amusing is that this map has determined that the section of the Soar that joins with the Trent just north of Loughborough is apparently unnavigable. This time of year I'd generally agree.
- yawpitch 3y ago
  It’s got a lot of details wrong… it took us five real years (plus one fake pandemic one) to visit every nook and cranny, and they’ve implied things are navigable that sure as heck aren’t — just try and get on the Dee from Chester without a crane except in a lethally high flood, the lock was disassembled years ago — and unnavigable that definitely are (it’s got the Manchester Ship Canal on there, but not the Mersey we crossed to get to it).
  - rmc 3y ago
    (I made WaterwayMap.org) The data is 100% OSM. You edit it to fix it yourself.
  - Doctor_Fegg 3y ago
    There's a difference between legally navigable and practically navigable. The Dee has a public right of navigation and therefore is tagged as boat=yes in OpenStreetMap. That's not to make any judgement as to whether or not you can get your boat through the Chester weirgate! The Mersey ought to be tagged with boat=yes, though. I'm now wondering about Walton Lock which I think still has a right of navigation though is very definitely impassable...
- rmc 3y ago
  (I made WaterwayMap.org) > What's interesting and somewhat amusing is that this map has determined that the section of the Soar that joins with the Trent just north of Loughborough is apparently unnavigable The boat views only use the OpenStreetMap `boat` tag. If a section of river is missing from WWM.org, then it's likely the tag is missing from the OSM waterway. You can fix that!
  - s3krit 3y ago
    Hmm I investigated that and the missing sections on OSM are indeed tagged with boat: yes and motorboat: yes. I'll do a little more digging PS. Despite using OSM for many years, I've never looked into editing it. Thanks for giving me the impetus to start! There are bits and bobs I've noticed aren't entirely correct as we move around the country, and now I'll be able to fix them where necessary.

bemusedthrow75 3y ago

Yep. The first one I went looking for was the Fleet, which is something of a ghost river at the end of its journey.

s3krit 3y ago

I went straight into these comments hoping to find another HN (potentially narrow) boater! What's interesting and somewhat amusing is that this map has determined that the section of the Soar that joins with the Trent just north of Loughborough is apparently unnavigable. This time of year I'd generally agree.

yawpitch 3y ago
It’s got a lot of details wrong… it took us five real years (plus one fake pandemic one) to visit every nook and cranny, and they’ve implied things are navigable that sure as heck aren’t — just try and get on the Dee from Chester without a crane except in a lethally high flood, the lock was disassembled years ago — and unnavigable that definitely are (it’s got the Manchester Ship Canal on there, but not the Mersey we crossed to get to it).
- rmc 3y ago
  (I made WaterwayMap.org) The data is 100% OSM. You edit it to fix it yourself.
- Doctor_Fegg 3y ago
  There's a difference between legally navigable and practically navigable. The Dee has a public right of navigation and therefore is tagged as boat=yes in OpenStreetMap. That's not to make any judgement as to whether or not you can get your boat through the Chester weirgate! The Mersey ought to be tagged with boat=yes, though. I'm now wondering about Walton Lock which I think still has a right of navigation though is very definitely impassable...
rmc 3y ago
(I made WaterwayMap.org) > What's interesting and somewhat amusing is that this map has determined that the section of the Soar that joins with the Trent just north of Loughborough is apparently unnavigable The boat views only use the OpenStreetMap `boat` tag. If a section of river is missing from WWM.org, then it's likely the tag is missing from the OSM waterway. You can fix that!
- s3krit 3y ago
  Hmm I investigated that and the missing sections on OSM are indeed tagged with boat: yes and motorboat: yes. I'll do a little more digging PS. Despite using OSM for many years, I've never looked into editing it. Thanks for giving me the impetus to start! There are bits and bobs I've noticed aren't entirely correct as we move around the country, and now I'll be able to fix them where necessary.