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Long battery life isn’t so much about contiguous use as it is about not needing to think about charging as often and being able to not carry a laptop charger br

Long battery life isn’t so much about contiguous use as it is about not needing to think about charging as often and being able to not carry a laptop charger brick on excursions. It also lets you still have “normal” laptop life left over after periods of high-intensity usage. Also generally speaking more efficient laptops are cooler which is generally a quality welcome in a device sometimes used in a person’s lap.

noirbot 3y ago
Yea, the Framework's battery issue for me is mostly that there is almost literally no point I could ever trust not having a power outlet nearby with the cable. I've had times where the computer, while fully shut down, loses 30% of the battery life in a few hours. Sure, it's the bulk of a Macbook Air, but I often leave that open, with the screen on, running VMs for work all day without it being plugged in. I expect that any time I open it, I'll have at least 30-60 minutes of use before I need to plug it in. My Framework, more often than not, tells me it's about to emergency shut down as soon as I log in.
- throwaway2037 3y ago
  > I've had times where the computer, while fully shut down, loses 30% of the battery life in a few hours. Did you report this issue to Framework? Do other users have similar issues?
AnthonyMouse 3y ago
> being able to not carry a laptop charger brick on excursions. It also lets you still have “normal” laptop life left over after periods of high-intensity usage. This is just the same trade off. For a given level of efficiency you could have put in a smaller battery and offset the weight of a second battery / charging brick that you would then only need when you need many hours of battery life. > Also generally speaking more efficient laptops are cooler which is generally a quality welcome in a device sometimes used in a person’s lap. That isn't really part of the trade off either. The faster ones generally don't have worse performance per watt -- they're often better because they have more cores with lower clock speeds. You get 100% more cores with 75% more performance for 50% more power consumption. For the same load they generate less heat. See also "race to idle". They only generate more heat in absolute terms if you put more load on them than the slower alternative would have been able to handle.

noirbot 3y ago

Yea, the Framework's battery issue for me is mostly that there is almost literally no point I could ever trust not having a power outlet nearby with the cable. I've had times where the computer, while fully shut down, loses 30% of the battery life in a few hours. Sure, it's the bulk of a Macbook Air, but I often leave that open, with the screen on, running VMs for work all day without it being plugged in. I expect that any time I open it, I'll have at least 30-60 minutes of use before I need to plug it in. My Framework, more often than not, tells me it's about to emergency shut down as soon as I log in.

throwaway2037 3y ago
> I've had times where the computer, while fully shut down, loses 30% of the battery life in a few hours. Did you report this issue to Framework? Do other users have similar issues?

AnthonyMouse 3y ago

> being able to not carry a laptop charger brick on excursions. It also lets you still have “normal” laptop life left over after periods of high-intensity usage. This is just the same trade off. For a given level of efficiency you could have put in a smaller battery and offset the weight of a second battery / charging brick that you would then only need when you need many hours of battery life. > Also generally speaking more efficient laptops are cooler which is generally a quality welcome in a device sometimes used in a person’s lap. That isn't really part of the trade off either. The faster ones generally don't have worse performance per watt -- they're often better because they have more cores with lower clock speeds. You get 100% more cores with 75% more performance for 50% more power consumption. For the same load they generate less heat. See also "race to idle". They only generate more heat in absolute terms if you put more load on them than the slower alternative would have been able to handle.