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Nah. Does not sound like that at all. 56k has that peculiar "ding" in the handshake, which makes very different from v34 handhake.

dspillett 3y ago
> 56k has that peculiar "ding" in the handshake Depends which 56K “standard” you are using. There were two before v90 standardised things, they had different handshake modifications for negotiating the faster link, and v90 was different again. Some ISPs supported only one of the earlier “standards” for some time after v90 (most v90 modems were firmware switchable between it and one of the older methods or were soft-modems where that switch was in the driver).
- bux93 3y ago
  K56flex was the one I had. USR modems were pretty expensive. But I think the next one for me was V.92 - not that it mattered greatly, because cable internet was around the corner. https://www.inetdaemon.com/tutorials/computers/hardware/modems/v90.shtml https://www.inetdaemon.com/tutorials/computers/hardware/mode...
BuildTheRobots 3y ago
I've been trying to find a recording of "proper 56k" as I remember it for years but none of them seem to have the "ding" (or "bong" as I describe it) sound. My understanding is that it required digital equipment at the exchange end which would make it impossible to do with two standard modems wired back to back. Unless someone has some telco kit laying around, it might be a lost sound.
- hackmiester 3y ago
  It's not quite that bad. The thing you need on one end is a digital modem. You can buy a card containing a bank of these for the Cisco ISR G2 platform. The ebay cost is about $60. Then in the same router, you can put a T1 card, which the digital modems will use to accept calls (costs about $15). Finally you can buy an analog modem card (costs about $20) to accept calls from another modem. All of this would be contained in 1 or 2 rack units. There are other methods but that's the one I would use. To see one of the other methods, try here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQ_hWS6ked8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQ_hWS6ked8
  - BuildTheRobots 3y ago
    Really appreciate the pointers. Sadly as none of the modems in the video you linked sounded right either, I might be about to go down a hardware buying rabbithole.
    - RulerOf 3y ago
      I had this same problem a few years ago and went down the rabbit hole. I was looking for the US Robotics X2 and K56Flex handshake sounds and eventually found them. V.90/92: https://goughlui.com/2016/05/03/project-the-definitive-collection-of-v-90v-92-modem-sounds/ https://goughlui.com/2016/05/03/project-the-definitive-colle... X2: https://goughlui.com/2018/06/10/project-record-a-us-robotics-x2-dial-up-modem-connection/ https://goughlui.com/2018/06/10/project-record-a-us-robotics... K56Flex: https://goughlui.com/2018/06/10/project-record-a-k56flex-dial-up-modem-connection/ https://goughlui.com/2018/06/10/project-record-a-k56flex-dia...
      - BuildTheRobots 3y ago
        Thank you - you've literally just saved me £500. Turns out I've been trying to track down the USRobotics Sportster voice modem sound from your first link. Even better as I can't find my 56k USRobotics, only the 33.6k one, so probably wouldn't have ever found that sound with hardware either. Thanks; that's been lodged in my head for a couple of decades.
zvr 3y ago
Back in the day, when preparing for one of the Cisco certifications, we had to be able to identify handshake sequences based on sounds... ("ah, the V.90 bit starts here").

dspillett 3y ago

> 56k has that peculiar "ding" in the handshake Depends which 56K “standard” you are using. There were two before v90 standardised things, they had different handshake modifications for negotiating the faster link, and v90 was different again. Some ISPs supported only one of the earlier “standards” for some time after v90 (most v90 modems were firmware switchable between it and one of the older methods or were soft-modems where that switch was in the driver).

bux93 3y ago
K56flex was the one I had. USR modems were pretty expensive. But I think the next one for me was V.92 - not that it mattered greatly, because cable internet was around the corner. https://www.inetdaemon.com/tutorials/computers/hardware/modems/v90.shtml https://www.inetdaemon.com/tutorials/computers/hardware/mode...

BuildTheRobots 3y ago

I've been trying to find a recording of "proper 56k" as I remember it for years but none of them seem to have the "ding" (or "bong" as I describe it) sound. My understanding is that it required digital equipment at the exchange end which would make it impossible to do with two standard modems wired back to back. Unless someone has some telco kit laying around, it might be a lost sound.

hackmiester 3y ago
It's not quite that bad. The thing you need on one end is a digital modem. You can buy a card containing a bank of these for the Cisco ISR G2 platform. The ebay cost is about $60. Then in the same router, you can put a T1 card, which the digital modems will use to accept calls (costs about $15). Finally you can buy an analog modem card (costs about $20) to accept calls from another modem. All of this would be contained in 1 or 2 rack units. There are other methods but that's the one I would use. To see one of the other methods, try here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQ_hWS6ked8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQ_hWS6ked8
- BuildTheRobots 3y ago
  Really appreciate the pointers. Sadly as none of the modems in the video you linked sounded right either, I might be about to go down a hardware buying rabbithole.
  - RulerOf 3y ago
    I had this same problem a few years ago and went down the rabbit hole. I was looking for the US Robotics X2 and K56Flex handshake sounds and eventually found them. V.90/92: https://goughlui.com/2016/05/03/project-the-definitive-collection-of-v-90v-92-modem-sounds/ https://goughlui.com/2016/05/03/project-the-definitive-colle... X2: https://goughlui.com/2018/06/10/project-record-a-us-robotics-x2-dial-up-modem-connection/ https://goughlui.com/2018/06/10/project-record-a-us-robotics... K56Flex: https://goughlui.com/2018/06/10/project-record-a-k56flex-dial-up-modem-connection/ https://goughlui.com/2018/06/10/project-record-a-k56flex-dia...
    - BuildTheRobots 3y ago
      Thank you - you've literally just saved me £500. Turns out I've been trying to track down the USRobotics Sportster voice modem sound from your first link. Even better as I can't find my 56k USRobotics, only the 33.6k one, so probably wouldn't have ever found that sound with hardware either. Thanks; that's been lodged in my head for a couple of decades.

zvr 3y ago

Back in the day, when preparing for one of the Cisco certifications, we had to be able to identify handshake sequences based on sounds... ("ah, the V.90 bit starts here").