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There is an entire industry for secure phones. Many have to be "unlocked" before dialing other secure phones. It isnt simple. Getting a normal phone line to
by sandworm101 3y ago
There is an entire industry for secure phones. Many have to be "unlocked" before dialing other secure phones. It isnt simple. Getting a normal phone line to passively carry an encrypted call is a bit of a hack.
- dTal 3y agoA hack? The entire point of encryption is to permit messages to be sent over insecure channels, no?
- sandworm101 3y agoThe hack is getting the unsecure system not to damage your encrypted signal, to carry even though it is expecting plain voice talking rather than a stream of binary digits.
- CrazyStat 3y agoWe’ve been doing that for dialup internet for decades.
- richardwhiuk 3y agoDialup actively co-operates with the telephone system - e.g. the screeching at the start is designed to disable echo cancellers and other such mechanisms.
- arpa 3y agoPOTS didn't have an opus audio codec.
- sandworm101 3y agoDialup doesn't work over every phone line, especially over sat voice lines.
- hiatus 3y ago> It isnt simple. Getting a normal phone line to passively carry an encrypted call is a bit of a hack. How so? It would seem fairly trivial considering we have ways of sending data over phone lines as sound for decades.
- sandworm101 3y agoBecause the signal transmitted over normal phones has to be encrypted. That encrypted signal will then be digitized/compressed by the standard phone line. Any artifacts in the phone line digitization might turn the encrypted signal into gibberish. Its like compressing a jpeg too many times. So you need an encryption method that isnt simple digitization. You need something that is encrypted but essentially sounds like human speech so that the digitization/compression process does not damage it. https://gdmissionsystems.com/products/encryption/secure-voice/sectera-viper-universal-secure-phone https://gdmissionsystems.com/products/encryption/secure-voic... https://www.cryptomuseum.com/crypto/gd/viper/ https://www.cryptomuseum.com/crypto/gd/viper/
- WatchDog 3y agoWe all used this kind of advanced technology to connect to the internet back in the 90s.
- sandworm101 3y agoNot really. The phone lines were not compressed then.
- bux93 3y agoThey were, they got compressed with G.711 or G.722. In fact, that's why your 56kbps modem would often fall back to 38.4kbps or 28k8, until the phone company installed a fancy new exchange that demodulated the 56kbps stream and didn't compress it. The 56kbps was also due to sampling limits/bandlimiters, on the same copper line you could also get a fully digital ISDN line that did 64kbps. (And if they remove all the filters and band limits, you can reach DSL speeds.) There's nothing inherently special about voice-compression compared to any other kind of interference/distortion you can get on an analogue line. Also, faxes still work?