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> points don't really mean anything but they also mean exactly how many days you're going to spend on them Work in defense, can confirm. Add "increment plannin

> points don't really mean anything but they also mean exactly how many days you're going to spend on them Work in defense, can confirm. Add "increment planning" where we plan the sprints out 3 months. Also, voting on points? Naw, someone yell out a number and that's that.

commandlinefan 3y ago
> plan the sprints out 3 months In an "agile" way, of course. You can be agile, you just have to say weeks in advance when you're going to be agile so we can plan around it.
- mulmen 3y ago
  I want to take “agile” proponents to a track and make them run Fibonacci multiples of 100m over and over with the only break being to ask how far they want to run next. Who can sprint forever? It doesn’t make any sense! When do we rest? When do we train? What is this metaphor!?
  - psunavy03 3y ago
    Nice straw man you've got there. You're really beating the crap out of that thing. "Sprint" is just a term for something you can also call an "iteration." No one is expecting you to actually go full-throttle 24/7.
    - aporetics 3y ago
      Eh, that is exactly the omega-point that end-stage capitalism is converging on.
      - psunavy03 3y ago
        I love it when people use the phrases "end-stage capitalism" or "late-stage capitalism," because it's basically a flashing neon sign saying "you can ignore me, because I have absolutely zero credibility." Makes it easy to move on.
        techbrovanguard 3y ago
        Speak for yourself, buddy.
        balex 3y ago
        Obviously he did. I guess you wanted to say "I disagree" but phrase it more aggressively?
    - Amigo5862 3y ago
      Then why not call it an iteration, or a round, or a week, or a month, or a cycle, or literally anything other than "sprint"? Oh, right, because you're supposed to sprint it because that's maximally profitable (in the short-term, anyway).
      - docmars 3y ago
        What ever would our beloved boards of directors do if they found out we weren't working fast? ;)

commandlinefan 3y ago

> plan the sprints out 3 months In an "agile" way, of course. You can be agile, you just have to say weeks in advance when you're going to be agile so we can plan around it.

mulmen 3y ago
I want to take “agile” proponents to a track and make them run Fibonacci multiples of 100m over and over with the only break being to ask how far they want to run next. Who can sprint forever? It doesn’t make any sense! When do we rest? When do we train? What is this metaphor!?
- psunavy03 3y ago
  Nice straw man you've got there. You're really beating the crap out of that thing. "Sprint" is just a term for something you can also call an "iteration." No one is expecting you to actually go full-throttle 24/7.
  - aporetics 3y ago
    Eh, that is exactly the omega-point that end-stage capitalism is converging on.
    - psunavy03 3y ago
      I love it when people use the phrases "end-stage capitalism" or "late-stage capitalism," because it's basically a flashing neon sign saying "you can ignore me, because I have absolutely zero credibility." Makes it easy to move on.
      - techbrovanguard 3y ago
        Speak for yourself, buddy.
        balex 3y ago
        Obviously he did. I guess you wanted to say "I disagree" but phrase it more aggressively?
  - Amigo5862 3y ago
    Then why not call it an iteration, or a round, or a week, or a month, or a cycle, or literally anything other than "sprint"? Oh, right, because you're supposed to sprint it because that's maximally profitable (in the short-term, anyway).
    - docmars 3y ago
      What ever would our beloved boards of directors do if they found out we weren't working fast? ;)