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Ah yes, just throw things at all cyclists. Run them off the road. Every thread about cyclists being abused includes someone like you mentioning that some cycl
by LanceH 3y ago
Ah yes, just throw things at all cyclists. Run them off the road.
Every thread about cyclists being abused includes someone like you mentioning that some cyclists ignore stops with the implication that they started the whole fight or that the fight is justified.
- gedy 3y agoI mean you could say "Ah yes, just throw things at all drivers" as well. Agreed that cars are way more dangerous than bikes, but here in California I do see a lot of aggressive recreational cyclists that act like they have a chip on their shoulder. While they may not be a danger by crashing into things like cars do, their behavior does cause sometimes dangerous issues for other people on the road.
- jprete 3y agoIn NYC, 90% of the times I see cyclists - typically because I'm using a crosswalk - they are violating the rules of the road. They don't yield to pedestrians, they don't stay in a lane, they don't signal turns, they don't stop for red lights even to check for cross-traffic. Sometimes I don't have to be in the crosswalk to notice them, because they'll take an electric-powered cycle onto the sidewalk. I am not exaggerating. I pay attention when I see a bicyclist actually stopping so I can cross in the crosswalk when I have the light, or otherwise following the rules of the road. I wish I had the presence of mine to thank those cyclists. But they are rare.
- autoexec 3y agoIf every time you walked down the street the people wearing blue shirts spat in your face or sucker punched you a third of the time as they walked past, it wouldn't take long before you had a strong reaction to seeing someone in a blue shirt walking your way, even if they personally did nothing to you. That's human nature. No one should be throwing things or trying to hurt anyone, but it absolutely is past and repeated negative experiences with cyclists acting irresponsibly that make drivers resent them, just like careless assholes in cars can make cyclists resent drivers.
- isthatafact 3y agoYour equating of interacting with a cyclist while in a car to being sucker punched and spat upon is a clue that your premise is irrational. Being delayed by a few seconds generally only results in aggression from car drivers if and only if the cause is a cyclist. My belief is that the worst offending car drivers are simply psychopath bullies who know they can safely abuse, threaten, harass, assault, etc. those pansy spandex wearing cyclists. They do it because they enjoy it. Some people are simply not fit to be a part of society.
- autoexec 3y ago> Your equating of interacting with a cyclist while in a car to being sucker punched and spat upon is a clue that your premise is irrational. I never equated the two. I used them as an example of how people come to blame all members of a certain class for the consistently harmful actions of a few members of that class. It's not fair, but it's common. > Being delayed by a few seconds generally only results in aggression from car drivers if and only if the cause is a cyclist. "Being delayed by a few seconds" is annoying for everyone no matter what the cause. That's not really the problem drivers have with cyclists though. It's having to slam on their breaks because someone on a bike ran a red light or having to swerve to avoid a cyclist who suddenly and illegally darted into their lane that makes drivers upset. > My belief is that the worst offending car drivers are simply psychopath bullies Maybe a number of the most extreme offenders actually are? The majority of people who have problems with cyclists on the road however are certainly not. I'd agree that people abusing cyclists for "fun" really are a problem and that they shouldn't be on the road.
- dgfitz 3y ago> Ah yes, just throw things at all cyclists. Run them off the road. That doesn't seem fair, that is not what I said. You're misrepresenting me. I do not know if you intended to or not. A group is generally regarded based on the behavior of a very small minority of its membership, usually the very worst or the very best. This seems like general human nature. There are many examples of this if you care to look for them. I have a few examples in mind, but they are unfortunately politically-charged examples and I have no desire to bring politics into this more than I just did.
- arp242 3y agoUsed to cycle 10km to work. I daily saw motorists ignore all sorts of things too. Every large group has a certain percentage of assholes, on account of the human race just having a certain percentage of them. That's not an excuse for anything, especially when we're talking about pretty dangerous behaviour. Here's the thing: people WILL literally try to run you off the road, even when you're the most careful law-abiding cyclists that exists. I've had people try to run me off the road even though it was a dedicated cycle path, only to proceed to rant at me that it was all a waste of money. Even standing still at a traffic light will have people drive up way close up to your rear wheel and you look back and they shout "piss off you cunt". The amount of aggression from some is unhinged beyond proportions. So when people come back with "yeah, but some cyclists break rules" ... Well sure, but that kind of misses the point. You get aggression even when following the rules not doing anything.