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It is unlikely, but I really hope they get an ortholinear keyboard option at some point. There is this thread[1] which has gotten my hopes up. [1] https://comm

It is unlikely, but I really hope they get an ortholinear keyboard option at some point. There is this thread[1] which has gotten my hopes up. [1] https://community.frame.work/t/ortholinear-keyboard-option/3321/23 https://community.frame.work/t/ortholinear-keyboard-option/3...

rollcat 3y ago
Hopefully not just a simple square grid, but something designed for ergonomics. You don't need to invent a new layout, there's plenty of pretty good designs you can copy, like Corne or Atreus. But at this point I'd take anything - even a narrower space bar (so that you can use your thumbs for modifiers without contorting them) would be a huge improvement. Even just looking at staggered keyboards hurts my hands.
- tiltowait 3y ago
  There's a surprisingly large cohort that believes a matrix layout is ergonomic—as in, "I have an ergonomic keyboard". From my personal use, it's a wash at best—some keys are easier to reach, and others are harder. The worst part is the layout promotes ulnar deviation even more than does a standard keyboard, and ulnar deviation is a major contributor to RSI. (A split matrix-style keyboard would negate the ulnar deviation concerns.) The Atreus layout, while not a personal favorite (way too much chording, which I found unpleasant and uncomfortable), would seem to be pretty ideal on a laptop, though it does take up a good chunk of space.
  - MetaWhirledPeas 3y ago
    > From my personal use, it's a wash at best—some keys are easier to reach, and others are harder I agree. > the layout promotes ulnar deviation even more than does a standard keyboard Hard disagree. You may choose to hold your wrists in such a manner that this is true, but that's on you. I'm a touch typist, and I switched to ortho partly because it makes a lot more sense for touch typing. Touch typing is taught in columns, and when those columns are slanted like this \ there really is no justification. So ortho lets me scratch that itch to fix the keyboard.
BadHumans 3y ago
There will probably never make one. I'd be surprised if even % of laptop users even know what an ortholinear layout is. You have a better chance of an aftermarket one.

rollcat 3y ago

Hopefully not just a simple square grid, but something designed for ergonomics. You don't need to invent a new layout, there's plenty of pretty good designs you can copy, like Corne or Atreus. But at this point I'd take anything - even a narrower space bar (so that you can use your thumbs for modifiers without contorting them) would be a huge improvement. Even just looking at staggered keyboards hurts my hands.

tiltowait 3y ago
There's a surprisingly large cohort that believes a matrix layout is ergonomic—as in, "I have an ergonomic keyboard". From my personal use, it's a wash at best—some keys are easier to reach, and others are harder. The worst part is the layout promotes ulnar deviation even more than does a standard keyboard, and ulnar deviation is a major contributor to RSI. (A split matrix-style keyboard would negate the ulnar deviation concerns.) The Atreus layout, while not a personal favorite (way too much chording, which I found unpleasant and uncomfortable), would seem to be pretty ideal on a laptop, though it does take up a good chunk of space.
- MetaWhirledPeas 3y ago
  > From my personal use, it's a wash at best—some keys are easier to reach, and others are harder I agree. > the layout promotes ulnar deviation even more than does a standard keyboard Hard disagree. You may choose to hold your wrists in such a manner that this is true, but that's on you. I'm a touch typist, and I switched to ortho partly because it makes a lot more sense for touch typing. Touch typing is taught in columns, and when those columns are slanted like this \ there really is no justification. So ortho lets me scratch that itch to fix the keyboard.

BadHumans 3y ago

There will probably never make one. I'd be surprised if even % of laptop users even know what an ortholinear layout is. You have a better chance of an aftermarket one.