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For reference, here is Notebookcheck's review stating 9 hours of real world battery life in web browsing (though on Windows): https://www.notebookcheck.net/Rade

by nrp 3y ago

For reference, here is Notebookcheck's review stating 9 hours of real world battery life in web browsing (though on Windows): https://www.notebookcheck.net/Radeon-RX-7700S-performance-debut-Framework-Laptop-16-review.790807.0.html#toc-7:~:text=search-,Battery%20Life,-Small%20180%20W https://www.notebookcheck.net/Radeon-RX-7700S-performance-de... For Linux, when following our installation guides for power optimization, power consumption with integrated graphics should be similar. Edit: Tom's Hardware similarly reports 9 hours on Windows (with Graphics Module installed): https://www.tomshardware.com/laptops/framework-laptop-16-review#:~:text=If%20you%27re%20comparing%20the%20Framework%20Laptop%2016%20to%20gaming%20laptops%2C%20it%20did%20a%20solid%20job%20on%20our%20battery%20test https://www.tomshardware.com/laptops/framework-laptop-16-rev....

oDot 3y ago
Can you elaborate more about the tradeoffs here? I'm in the same boat, looking for as light as possible with a much battery as possible, was banking on the 16 yet we get 9 hours instead of (an assumed) ~10-11, and 2.1/2.4kg. Somehow the Thinkpad Extreme X1 and the new Zephyrus G16 have similar CPUs, dGPUs, a >90Whr battery and they weigh less than 2kg. Where's most the weight going? Will I be able to buy a FW 16 and eliminate weight to achieve similar specs? Literally asking about using a "stripped down version".
- theossuary 3y ago
  Frankly that weight is from the modularity of the system. To build something repairable/modular requires scaffolding this isn't necessary if you solder and glue everything together; that's why companies like Apple do it. You are giving up some things in order to get the promised repairability of a framework. If you want the lightest laptop with the longest battery life, you'd get a Mac. If you want the best bang for your buck go with a basic Ultrabook. If your willing to have a bit more weight, size and a bit less battery in exchange for repairability/customization, that's the niche framework fits well.
ParetoOptimal 3y ago
One huge caveat that makes me most unhappy with my framework 13 purchase is power draw on HDMI BIOS bug gives me 1-2 hours battery life. As a result, its beginning to resemble a paperweight.

by nrp 3y ago

oDot 3y ago

Can you elaborate more about the tradeoffs here? I'm in the same boat, looking for as light as possible with a much battery as possible, was banking on the 16 yet we get 9 hours instead of (an assumed) ~10-11, and 2.1/2.4kg. Somehow the Thinkpad Extreme X1 and the new Zephyrus G16 have similar CPUs, dGPUs, a >90Whr battery and they weigh less than 2kg. Where's most the weight going? Will I be able to buy a FW 16 and eliminate weight to achieve similar specs? Literally asking about using a "stripped down version".

theossuary 3y ago
Frankly that weight is from the modularity of the system. To build something repairable/modular requires scaffolding this isn't necessary if you solder and glue everything together; that's why companies like Apple do it. You are giving up some things in order to get the promised repairability of a framework. If you want the lightest laptop with the longest battery life, you'd get a Mac. If you want the best bang for your buck go with a basic Ultrabook. If your willing to have a bit more weight, size and a bit less battery in exchange for repairability/customization, that's the niche framework fits well.

ParetoOptimal 3y ago

One huge caveat that makes me most unhappy with my framework 13 purchase is power draw on HDMI BIOS bug gives me 1-2 hours battery life. As a result, its beginning to resemble a paperweight.