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The fact that even those who don't drive cars hate cyclists says something. As a pedestrian I see myself much more endangered by cyclists, which swerve everywhe
by vdaea 3y ago
The fact that even those who don't drive cars hate cyclists says something. As a pedestrian I see myself much more endangered by cyclists, which swerve everywhere (including the pavement), than by cars, which stay within their lanes.
- piva00 3y agoLike what? Edit since you edited yourself (only their first sentence was in the comment when I first replied): > The fact that even those who don't drive cars hate cyclists says something. As a pedestrian I see myself much more endangered by cyclists, which swerve everywhere (including the pavement), than by cars, which stay within their lanes. I've only seen swerving cyclists everywhere when infrastructure for cycling is poor or non-existent. Anywhere where there's a minimally decent infrastructure I don't see cyclists sharing space with pedestrians on sidewalks, nor swerving crazily around. Maybe it's an issue with not providing appropriate infrastructure instead? If there weren't roads you'd see cars not following lanes, etc.
- throwaway44773 3y agoThis is funny for me, just coming back from Vietnam where most of the traffic is motorcycles/scooters. All the behavior that is ascribed to bicyclists here is how motorcyclists behave over there. They drive on the sidewalk (when it's possible, because most sidewalks are usually blocked by parked scooters, among other things). They do not stop at red lights, they do not stop at pedestrian crossings (even honking their horn at you to get out of the way). This is simply how cyclists behave in the absence of incentives to act otherwise. You don't solve this problem by having more infrastructure, you solve this problem by brainwashing the cyclists and drivers to follow the rules, and enforcing the rules.