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I find this kind of data interesting and hope we can pick out what’s biological and what’s social/cultural. It seems like there used to be more of these “look
by prepend 3y ago
I find this kind of data interesting and hope we can pick out what’s biological and what’s social/cultural.
It seems like there used to be more of these “look at these interesting results” type discussions but are fewer now that just posting things can upset people and gather lots of folks meta debating instead of digging into knowledge development and understanding.
- asylteltine 3y agoIsn’t everything biological? How can something magically only be cultural? There is a root of behavior and that’s biology. Men are on average larger, more aggressive, stronger, etc. of course this would influence culture.
- AlecSchueler 3y agoSo how do you explain things that vary from culture to culture, or that drift over time?
- asylteltine 3y agoSuch as?
- im3w1l 3y agoNorth and South korea are a striking example of very different cultures, despite very similar biology.
- andsoitis 3y agogender roles such as division of labor has shifted over time, for one. men wearing makeup has a long and fascinating history from ancient times, to the Middle Ages, renaissance, 19th and 20th centuries, and the modern resurgence.
- AlecSchueler 3y agoTrousers for men, dresses for women.
- red-iron-pine 3y agoclearly, togas -- essentially dresses -- mean that the Ancient Romans were almost entirely 100% women
- mitthrowaway2 3y ago"In early 17th-century Europe, high heels were a sign of masculinity and high social status." -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-heeled_shoe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-heeled_shoe
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- prepend 3y agoI don’t think only, but can be a factor. For example, I think lots of fashion is some factor of culture and not biology. That’s why costumes are different in Germany than China. And there are things that are biology (height, etc). It’s interesting to find what’s nature and what’s nurture.
- corethree 3y agoRelevant study: Look up the gender equality paradox in Nordic countries. Nordic countries are the most egalitarian countries in the world that offer the best equal opportunities for men and women. The initial conclusions were that as Nordic countries made opportunities for either gender more equal the differences in choice for careers between genders became more pronounced. There's various cooked interpretations of the result from agenda based groups but those are the initial results. This person illustrates the whole study the best: https://youtu.be/_iudkPi4_sY?si=DPtr46-vw94sa70v https://youtu.be/_iudkPi4_sY?si=DPtr46-vw94sa70v It's hard to draw a definitive conclusion from the study due to all the controversy and various parties cooking the numbers for their own agenda but take from it what you will, but the initial conclusion was that most of this is biological.