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See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woke https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woke What's wrong with being "woke"? People can't tolerate the fact that some still want s

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woke https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woke What's wrong with being "woke"? People can't tolerate the fact that some still want social justice as supposedly "less equal" people rush into the country? Yeah? Then they should just say it! I just want people to openly express the racism in their minds without coming up with ridiculous terms like "anti-woke". Truth would be them saying "We don't want equality, we believe we are privileged and we want to live that", why is it so hard to say? But no. We didn't want to throw away the government! We like equality, just not woke! This is all you hear.

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t0bia_s 3y ago
Ideology that tries to make wired and pathological behavior and ideas a normal thing and try shame others for not adopting it will never be accepted by majority. We have democracy, not dictatorship.
- patates 3y ago
  > Ideology that tries to make wired and pathological behavior and ideas a normal thing What are you referring to? Read some history on being "woke", what part is problematic?
  - JodieBenitez 3y ago
    > what part is problematic? The zealots are problematic.
  - t0bia_s 3y ago
    Define "being woke".
    - patates 3y ago
      From Wikipedia: > Woke is an adjective derived from African-American Vernacular English (AAVE) meaning "alert to racial prejudice and discrimination".
      - leereeves 3y ago
        They are the biggest source of racial prejudice and discrimination, from anti-white attitudes like "it's impossible to be racist to white people" to DEI policies that openly discriminate against white people. This isn't even hidden. Advocates proudly declare: "The only remedy to past discrimination is present discrimination. The only remedy to present discrimination is future discrimination." Perhaps this is an instance of Goodhart's law (when a measure becomes a target, it ceases to be a good measure). Diversity is an excellent thing when it happens naturally as a result of equal opportunity. But when diversity becomes the target, it inspires divisive race-based selection practices that people quite correctly fight against. That's surely a factor in the recent decline of the left.
mantas 3y ago
Woke is way beyond equality to the point that it brings anti-equality policies. Wanting to control your borders and reduce migration is not a „privilege“. Nor it has anything to do with racism.
- egeozcan 3y ago
  > Woke is way beyond equality to the point that it brings anti-equality policies. How? Give an example. > Wanting to control your borders and reduce migration is not a „privilege“. Nor it has anything to do with racism. You can support reducing migration. That's nothing to do with being against woke or the point above.
  - mantas 3y ago
    Transathletes is a hill I'm willing to die on. There's no equality in letting men compete with women. Regardion migration, that's the vibe I got from OP. And I frequently see woke to bother about native and indigenous rights. But they shut silent about native europeans preserving their cultures.
    - egeozcan 3y ago
      A person who is alert about racial discrimination can still not support transathletes. That's a big discussion topic and many people have differing opinions. The post above clearly states that anti-woke is being used as a cover for racism. Supporting controlled migration is no racism (by itself, to be clear). Probably we have very different opinions about migration but none of us need to be racist. Racist people are more likely to want to restrict migration but of course not all people who do so are racist. It seems like the woke movement became something like Antifa, an imaginary enemy that supports everything that one doesn't. Being alert to racial prejudice and discrimination doesn't mean you do or don't care about the European culture. It tells nothing about it. Like being a feminist also doesn't.
      - mantas 3y ago
        I’m saying why woke gets the bad rap. As long as woke people themselves won’t set sane borders for their movement, they’ll be seen as more vocal parts of it. I see „alert to racial prejudice“ issues all the time. E.g. mass media writing Black but white. And all the „muh racism“ crowd is silent. Woke seems to be all about hipocrisy tbh. Antifa in my experience is much less hipocritical. More like they’re kids looking for trouble to went their frustrations in physical ways. Both types of skinheads, „antifa“ and „neonazis“ fit perfectly together.

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t0bia_s 3y ago

Ideology that tries to make wired and pathological behavior and ideas a normal thing and try shame others for not adopting it will never be accepted by majority. We have democracy, not dictatorship.

patates 3y ago
> Ideology that tries to make wired and pathological behavior and ideas a normal thing What are you referring to? Read some history on being "woke", what part is problematic?
- JodieBenitez 3y ago
  > what part is problematic? The zealots are problematic.
- t0bia_s 3y ago
  Define "being woke".
  - patates 3y ago
    From Wikipedia: > Woke is an adjective derived from African-American Vernacular English (AAVE) meaning "alert to racial prejudice and discrimination".
    - leereeves 3y ago
      They are the biggest source of racial prejudice and discrimination, from anti-white attitudes like "it's impossible to be racist to white people" to DEI policies that openly discriminate against white people. This isn't even hidden. Advocates proudly declare: "The only remedy to past discrimination is present discrimination. The only remedy to present discrimination is future discrimination." Perhaps this is an instance of Goodhart's law (when a measure becomes a target, it ceases to be a good measure). Diversity is an excellent thing when it happens naturally as a result of equal opportunity. But when diversity becomes the target, it inspires divisive race-based selection practices that people quite correctly fight against. That's surely a factor in the recent decline of the left.

mantas 3y ago

Woke is way beyond equality to the point that it brings anti-equality policies. Wanting to control your borders and reduce migration is not a „privilege“. Nor it has anything to do with racism.

egeozcan 3y ago
> Woke is way beyond equality to the point that it brings anti-equality policies. How? Give an example. > Wanting to control your borders and reduce migration is not a „privilege“. Nor it has anything to do with racism. You can support reducing migration. That's nothing to do with being against woke or the point above.
- mantas 3y ago
  Transathletes is a hill I'm willing to die on. There's no equality in letting men compete with women. Regardion migration, that's the vibe I got from OP. And I frequently see woke to bother about native and indigenous rights. But they shut silent about native europeans preserving their cultures.
  - egeozcan 3y ago
    A person who is alert about racial discrimination can still not support transathletes. That's a big discussion topic and many people have differing opinions. The post above clearly states that anti-woke is being used as a cover for racism. Supporting controlled migration is no racism (by itself, to be clear). Probably we have very different opinions about migration but none of us need to be racist. Racist people are more likely to want to restrict migration but of course not all people who do so are racist. It seems like the woke movement became something like Antifa, an imaginary enemy that supports everything that one doesn't. Being alert to racial prejudice and discrimination doesn't mean you do or don't care about the European culture. It tells nothing about it. Like being a feminist also doesn't.
    - mantas 3y ago
      I’m saying why woke gets the bad rap. As long as woke people themselves won’t set sane borders for their movement, they’ll be seen as more vocal parts of it. I see „alert to racial prejudice“ issues all the time. E.g. mass media writing Black but white. And all the „muh racism“ crowd is silent. Woke seems to be all about hipocrisy tbh. Antifa in my experience is much less hipocritical. More like they’re kids looking for trouble to went their frustrations in physical ways. Both types of skinheads, „antifa“ and „neonazis“ fit perfectly together.