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Do the reverse of these protests ever happen? Are there some days where right wing people protest with similar numbers?

by ALittleLight 3y ago

inductive_magic 3y ago
Nope
fifilura 3y ago
Only in USA.
mschuster91 3y ago
Dresden was infamous for a few years with the PEGIDA rallies, these routinely pulled thousands of people in the beginning [1], and eventually federally. But even then, the numbers were orders of magnitude less than what happened the last week, and after a few months it all but fizzled out. Dresden is the last holdout of PEGIDA left, with a few hundred people in attendance every few weeks, and Munich held out with literally 3-5 people up until Covid hit. [1] https://www.handelsblatt.com/politik/deutschland/pegida-und-die-zahlen-wie-gross-ist-pegida-wirklich/11244960.html https://www.handelsblatt.com/politik/deutschland/pegida-und-...
adrianN 3y ago
The biggest „right wing“ protests probably where during peak Covid and didn’t reach these numbers.
earthnail 3y ago
Not in modern Germany yet, no. Their protests are rather small in comparison and often met with much larger anti protests. However, the far right party AfD has been gaining lots of votes over the last few years. It will be interesting to see whether these protests are the beginning of a reversal of that trend.
- shp0ngle 3y ago
  Aren't there farmer protests in Germany right now?
  - mschuster91 3y ago
    These were ridiculously small in actual numbers, they were just effective at creating traffic chaos since they used tractors.
    - shp0ngle 3y ago
      Ah ok. Hard to tell from abroad.
  - patates 3y ago
    While supported by the right, farmers had a very concrete reason to make the protests. It's actually very weird because normally right-wing ideology should not support tax cuts for agriculture on paper. These days it's more like supporting all the opposite of what the other side is doing.
  - jamil7 3y ago
    The farmer protests are not necessarily right-wing protests, they represent a mixed bag of ideologies and a response to proposed changes in increased regulation and loss of subsidies. Right-wing and conservative groups attached themselves to these as a quick publicity stunt.
willvarfar 3y ago
"Right wing" can be pretty broad. The recent farmers protests, where traffic was blocked by convoys of tractors, were seen as an opportunity for AfD.
eknoes 3y ago
> Are there some days where right wing people protest with similar numbers? No, not even close. This weekend were more than 1 million people on the street, spread all over Germany, with several protests that had to be cancelled for safety reasons, as way too much people tried to come. In contrast, one of the biggest right wing demonstrations in the recent years was in 2015 Pegida, who had like 25k participants on their biggest protest in Dresden. I do not have the countrywide number for these right wing demonstrations around 2015, but Dresden was kind of the center of their movement and usually the most.
swarnie 3y ago
Can't speak for Germany but in the UK you'll find the usually suspects shouting in the street like this and the counter protest will be at the ballot box.
jillesvangurp 3y ago
Oh yes. I live in Berlin. Usually far right demonstrations are countered by left wing ones. Often at the same time. And then there's a lot of police to keep the groups separated. During covid, there were a lot of right wing protests in Berlin. In general, people demonstrate a lot in Berlin. Mostly, that's just business as usual for the police. Tens of thousands is not that many people for a demonstration. If people feel strongly about things, they get bigger crowds together. Anyone that feels strongly about something can organize a demonstration. The only requirement is that you have to register these. The local police has a helpful overview of upcoming demonstrations: https://www.berlin.de/polizei/service/versammlungsbehoerde/versammlungen-aufzuege/ https://www.berlin.de/polizei/service/versammlungsbehoerde/v... Most of these are just a handful of people protesting whatever. But some of these can draw quite a crowd and they routinely block streets to allow protesters to do their thing.
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DeathArrow 3y ago
No. As the system would brand that as far right extremists taking part in a riot with the objective of overthrowing the constitutional order. The police forces would represses the protests in no time.
on_the_train 3y ago
There was a time when that happened. But the left is highly organized. They take photographs of every participant, had a database to share those. They identified everyone they could and ratted them out to their employer. There were a few high profile cases of people losing their job as a consequence. Today its effectively impossible to share your conservative opinion in Germany.

Do the reverse of these protests ever happen? Are there some days where right wing people protest with similar numbers?

inductive_magic 3y ago

Nope

fifilura 3y ago

Only in USA.

mschuster91 3y ago

Dresden was infamous for a few years with the PEGIDA rallies, these routinely pulled thousands of people in the beginning [1], and eventually federally. But even then, the numbers were orders of magnitude less than what happened the last week, and after a few months it all but fizzled out. Dresden is the last holdout of PEGIDA left, with a few hundred people in attendance every few weeks, and Munich held out with literally 3-5 people up until Covid hit. [1] https://www.handelsblatt.com/politik/deutschland/pegida-und-die-zahlen-wie-gross-ist-pegida-wirklich/11244960.html https://www.handelsblatt.com/politik/deutschland/pegida-und-...

adrianN 3y ago

The biggest „right wing“ protests probably where during peak Covid and didn’t reach these numbers.

earthnail 3y ago

Not in modern Germany yet, no. Their protests are rather small in comparison and often met with much larger anti protests. However, the far right party AfD has been gaining lots of votes over the last few years. It will be interesting to see whether these protests are the beginning of a reversal of that trend.

shp0ngle 3y ago
Aren't there farmer protests in Germany right now?
- mschuster91 3y ago
  These were ridiculously small in actual numbers, they were just effective at creating traffic chaos since they used tractors.
  - shp0ngle 3y ago
    Ah ok. Hard to tell from abroad.
- patates 3y ago
  While supported by the right, farmers had a very concrete reason to make the protests. It's actually very weird because normally right-wing ideology should not support tax cuts for agriculture on paper. These days it's more like supporting all the opposite of what the other side is doing.
- jamil7 3y ago
  The farmer protests are not necessarily right-wing protests, they represent a mixed bag of ideologies and a response to proposed changes in increased regulation and loss of subsidies. Right-wing and conservative groups attached themselves to these as a quick publicity stunt.

willvarfar 3y ago

"Right wing" can be pretty broad. The recent farmers protests, where traffic was blocked by convoys of tractors, were seen as an opportunity for AfD.

eknoes 3y ago

> Are there some days where right wing people protest with similar numbers? No, not even close. This weekend were more than 1 million people on the street, spread all over Germany, with several protests that had to be cancelled for safety reasons, as way too much people tried to come. In contrast, one of the biggest right wing demonstrations in the recent years was in 2015 Pegida, who had like 25k participants on their biggest protest in Dresden. I do not have the countrywide number for these right wing demonstrations around 2015, but Dresden was kind of the center of their movement and usually the most.

swarnie 3y ago

Can't speak for Germany but in the UK you'll find the usually suspects shouting in the street like this and the counter protest will be at the ballot box.

jillesvangurp 3y ago

Oh yes. I live in Berlin. Usually far right demonstrations are countered by left wing ones. Often at the same time. And then there's a lot of police to keep the groups separated. During covid, there were a lot of right wing protests in Berlin. In general, people demonstrate a lot in Berlin. Mostly, that's just business as usual for the police. Tens of thousands is not that many people for a demonstration. If people feel strongly about things, they get bigger crowds together. Anyone that feels strongly about something can organize a demonstration. The only requirement is that you have to register these. The local police has a helpful overview of upcoming demonstrations: https://www.berlin.de/polizei/service/versammlungsbehoerde/versammlungen-aufzuege/ https://www.berlin.de/polizei/service/versammlungsbehoerde/v... Most of these are just a handful of people protesting whatever. But some of these can draw quite a crowd and they routinely block streets to allow protesters to do their thing.

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DeathArrow 3y ago

No. As the system would brand that as far right extremists taking part in a riot with the objective of overthrowing the constitutional order. The police forces would represses the protests in no time.

on_the_train 3y ago

There was a time when that happened. But the left is highly organized. They take photographs of every participant, had a database to share those. They identified everyone they could and ratted them out to their employer. There were a few high profile cases of people losing their job as a consequence. Today its effectively impossible to share your conservative opinion in Germany.