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Says the person commenting on HN instead of working.

wwweston 3y ago
More likely instead of sleeping.
rightbyte 3y ago
Sure. Lets say it is true. I would argue that there is a fix amount of real work a programmer can do per day. My limit is about 2h unless the task is straight forward which it usually isn't. Then I have to goof off. Like aligning whitespace or sorting papers. Obviously I would rather play computer games or go home, but that wont do. We are pretending to work alot to not stir up social unrest on the work place among other types of staff. But like there is no need to actually believe in it ourself.
- Greed 3y ago
  I've always wondered what exactly that "useful productivity" cap is for programmers on average. I've been gifted with the capacity for 100% productive eight hour days, but it's definitely easy to recognize that as extremely unusual talking to coworkers for more than ten minutes over the years. In discussing the idea of "maximum productive hours per day" I've found that not only is the variance on the teams I've been a part of huge, but also that it's pretty hard to correlate that number with work ethic. Great engineers often know when they're out of that maximally effective window and pivot to other things for the rest of their day. A related aside: I've noticed anecdotally that as you become more senior you get pretty good at feeling out what that number is for each of your teammates and it becomes a pretty useful metric to leverage in your day-to-day toolkit. I'd be curious to see what a workplace would look like if folks were actually allowed to be transparent about that (without repercussions) rather than it having to be guesstimated.
  - iancmceachern 3y ago
    Life isn't about this. Watch office space.
cqqxo4zV46cp 3y ago
Very surprised to see this sort of comment outside of US business hours. Usually it’s just the US Coastal self-identified elites that forget that the rest of the world exists :)
iancmceachern 3y ago
I had the day off to get some dental fillings, I took PTO and everything.

More likely instead of sleeping.

Sure. Lets say it is true. I would argue that there is a fix amount of real work a programmer can do per day. My limit is about 2h unless the task is straight forward which it usually isn't. Then I have to goof off. Like aligning whitespace or sorting papers. Obviously I would rather play computer games or go home, but that wont do. We are pretending to work alot to not stir up social unrest on the work place among other types of staff. But like there is no need to actually believe in it ourself.

Greed 3y ago
I've always wondered what exactly that "useful productivity" cap is for programmers on average. I've been gifted with the capacity for 100% productive eight hour days, but it's definitely easy to recognize that as extremely unusual talking to coworkers for more than ten minutes over the years. In discussing the idea of "maximum productive hours per day" I've found that not only is the variance on the teams I've been a part of huge, but also that it's pretty hard to correlate that number with work ethic. Great engineers often know when they're out of that maximally effective window and pivot to other things for the rest of their day. A related aside: I've noticed anecdotally that as you become more senior you get pretty good at feeling out what that number is for each of your teammates and it becomes a pretty useful metric to leverage in your day-to-day toolkit. I'd be curious to see what a workplace would look like if folks were actually allowed to be transparent about that (without repercussions) rather than it having to be guesstimated.
- iancmceachern 3y ago
  Life isn't about this. Watch office space.

cqqxo4zV46cp 3y ago

Very surprised to see this sort of comment outside of US business hours. Usually it’s just the US Coastal self-identified elites that forget that the rest of the world exists :)

iancmceachern 3y ago

I had the day off to get some dental fillings, I took PTO and everything.