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The superferry was canned because of lobbying by airlines and car rental companies. Currently, the only way to travel between the islands is by actual airplane

The superferry was canned because of lobbying by airlines and car rental companies. Currently, the only way to travel between the islands is by actual airplanes, through airports, with all the annoyances that comes with that, TSA, security, bag checks, prohibited items, and a gazillion other rules. That's what this thing will compete against, and it's pretty much a slam dunk. Unless it will be lobbied to death like the predecessors.

fallingknife 3y ago
Why would the rental car companies care?
- Cerium 3y ago
  As with many ferries, the Superferry could let you bring your vehicle with you on the trip. The rental car companies would care because that would reduce their business as many locations in Hawaii are best accessible via private vehicle.
ghaff 3y ago
Though aside from Honolulu (I assume, haven't been there specifically), most of the airports in Hawaii are pretty small, laid-back affairs. They're really not a big deal to fly in and out of. There were also a lot of environmental protests against the Superferry that I doubt can all be chalked up to car rental and airline lobbying. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawaii_Superferry https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawaii_Superferry
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- beaeglebeached 3y ago
  TSA afaik isn't even required for intrastate flights as intrastate travel isn't fed jurisdiction. In Alaska they don't even metal detect for weapons intrastate last time I flew. If they're keeping TSA for intrastate flightd it's just as a fed funded voluntary jobs program for low IQ undereducated people to not have to rely on state welfare .
  - ghaff 3y ago
    Your elitist commentary aside. The issue is probably more that at small Hawaii airports that have both service back to the mainland and inter-island flights, they just don't bother to separate the two pools of passengers. I have done an inter-island flight from smaller small prop plane terminal in Kona adjacent to the main (but still small) terminal and I'm guessing I didn't have a security screening in that case.

fallingknife 3y ago

Why would the rental car companies care?

Cerium 3y ago
As with many ferries, the Superferry could let you bring your vehicle with you on the trip. The rental car companies would care because that would reduce their business as many locations in Hawaii are best accessible via private vehicle.

ghaff 3y ago

Though aside from Honolulu (I assume, haven't been there specifically), most of the airports in Hawaii are pretty small, laid-back affairs. They're really not a big deal to fly in and out of. There were also a lot of environmental protests against the Superferry that I doubt can all be chalked up to car rental and airline lobbying. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawaii_Superferry https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawaii_Superferry

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beaeglebeached 3y ago
TSA afaik isn't even required for intrastate flights as intrastate travel isn't fed jurisdiction. In Alaska they don't even metal detect for weapons intrastate last time I flew. If they're keeping TSA for intrastate flightd it's just as a fed funded voluntary jobs program for low IQ undereducated people to not have to rely on state welfare .
- ghaff 3y ago
  Your elitist commentary aside. The issue is probably more that at small Hawaii airports that have both service back to the mainland and inter-island flights, they just don't bother to separate the two pools of passengers. I have done an inter-island flight from smaller small prop plane terminal in Kona adjacent to the main (but still small) terminal and I'm guessing I didn't have a security screening in that case.