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This is what I hate most about modern UX-- especially on TV apps. A menu with two items: one is bold white and the other is bold black. What am I about to click

This is what I hate most about modern UX-- especially on TV apps. A menu with two items: one is bold white and the other is bold black. What am I about to click? The youtube captions toggle is guilty of this too. It toggles between black on white and white on black. I just have to click it and wait until I see someone's lips moving with no captions then try the other icon mode. It's like the move to touchscreen erased everyone's common sense for stateful positional input feedback.

dylan604 3y ago
Not sure about common sense and touch screen as it's been around for much much longer. It's also something easily not considered when one is not trained in the ways of the UI. However, it is something that is easy to understand once it is pointed out to you and you are the one under the microscope for it. For example, in this specific app, the flag/no flag is easier to discern its use compared to the cloud/sun icon. It doesn't follow the same logic as the flag/no flag. It could be cloudy/not cloudy cloud or sunny/not sunny, and then it follows the flag. Consistency between buttons is important
KTibow 3y ago
> YouTube captions toggle While I've seen similar problems the captions toggle hasn't been one of these for me. On desktop it uses a red underline when activated which is very clear that it's currently activated. On other platforms, I've seen the button's background toggle between translucent button with outlined icon to white button with filled icon, which I find intuitive but I guess others might not.
BiggsHoson 3y ago
What on earth happened to good ol' checkboxes?
- dylan604 3y ago
  i'd venture a guess that they were given up on since they couldn't be styled like all native elements. also, check boxes remove one from whatever design the UI is meant to have. if you're recreating the look/feel of a control panel with buttons/knobs/sliders, check boxes are not something you would find. a flip/toggle switch or push button is common for 1/0 binary type options. a knob or fader allows for values between 0-1. you just don't see too many check boxes out in the wild.
dpig_ 3y ago
There's a streaming service in Australia called Binge, and their UX makes me feel something like road rage. There is a horizontal row of elements for the Seasons of a show, and then below that is a horizontal row of thumbnails for each episode in that season. The only way you know whether you are currently focused on the Seasons or the Episodes row is that the element you are focusing is perhaps 2.5% larger than the other elements. There is no border, no shaders over the element - nothing to tell you where you are without arbitrarily moving the focus around just to gather some context.

dylan604 3y ago

Not sure about common sense and touch screen as it's been around for much much longer. It's also something easily not considered when one is not trained in the ways of the UI. However, it is something that is easy to understand once it is pointed out to you and you are the one under the microscope for it. For example, in this specific app, the flag/no flag is easier to discern its use compared to the cloud/sun icon. It doesn't follow the same logic as the flag/no flag. It could be cloudy/not cloudy cloud or sunny/not sunny, and then it follows the flag. Consistency between buttons is important

KTibow 3y ago

> YouTube captions toggle While I've seen similar problems the captions toggle hasn't been one of these for me. On desktop it uses a red underline when activated which is very clear that it's currently activated. On other platforms, I've seen the button's background toggle between translucent button with outlined icon to white button with filled icon, which I find intuitive but I guess others might not.

BiggsHoson 3y ago

What on earth happened to good ol' checkboxes?

dylan604 3y ago
i'd venture a guess that they were given up on since they couldn't be styled like all native elements. also, check boxes remove one from whatever design the UI is meant to have. if you're recreating the look/feel of a control panel with buttons/knobs/sliders, check boxes are not something you would find. a flip/toggle switch or push button is common for 1/0 binary type options. a knob or fader allows for values between 0-1. you just don't see too many check boxes out in the wild.

dpig_ 3y ago

There's a streaming service in Australia called Binge, and their UX makes me feel something like road rage. There is a horizontal row of elements for the Seasons of a show, and then below that is a horizontal row of thumbnails for each episode in that season. The only way you know whether you are currently focused on the Seasons or the Episodes row is that the element you are focusing is perhaps 2.5% larger than the other elements. There is no border, no shaders over the element - nothing to tell you where you are without arbitrarily moving the focus around just to gather some context.