My point isn't that there's something intrinsic to Java that leads to nightmarish codebases, but there must be something associated with the Java brand name tha

My point isn't that there's something intrinsic to Java that leads to nightmarish codebases, but there must be something associated with the Java brand name that leads to it. I haven't seen such a large percentage of this lack of skill affiliated with any other language (granted, I haven't spent much time working with, e.g., VB or PHP codebases). I don't know what it is about Java that seems to encourage the mess, but there is something.