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What are some of the brands that you’ve seen that have those implemented-to-a-higher-standard features? I’m in the market for a new set of everything and would

What are some of the brands that you’ve seen that have those implemented-to-a-higher-standard features? I’m in the market for a new set of everything and would appreciate the insight.

timthelion 3y ago
https://www.mieleusa.com/e/refrigerators-and-freezers-1022129-c https://www.mieleusa.com/e/refrigerators-and-freezers-102212... has few bells and whistles but is a superpremium brand. I bought some of their stuff used and while expensive it has very high quality materials...
- pintxo 3y ago
  Note: Miele just rebrands Liebherr fridges. At least in Europe, guess the US is no different.
  - MrMan 3y ago
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  - nagisa 3y ago
    Liebherr fridges & freezers are known to be very good too, if only a slightly cheaper due to carrying a less fancy trademark.
    - bombcar 3y ago
      This is another trick, find out the high quality brands and find who they're OEMing, and get those. Parts websites for appliances can be good hints.
  - DrinkWater 3y ago
    That’s not entirely true. They are manufactured by Liebherr but so heavily tweaked by Miele that „rebranding“ is not exactly the right word. That doesn’t mean they are better or inferior than regular Liebherr products though.
sokoloff 3y ago
Seeing how my parents' SubZero is built and how it's performed, I'd put them high on my personal list, particularly if I was doing a custom built-in (as they did). In 24 years, they had one issue with it (was a door close switch that either failed or got misaligned). Parts and manuals were readily available and the repair was an easy DIY. That said, I bought a Samsung mid-range french door fridge from BestBuy as we aren't doing a fancy built-in at this point in our lives.
- D13Fd 3y ago
  I saw a more recent Sub Zero refrigerator at a rental last summer and it seemed pretty terrible. Plus I have a coworker with a Sub Zero who has been out of the office several times over the years to meet repair people, and frequently complains about her fridge. Meanwhile I have a $1k Samsung refurb that has worked flawlessly for 8 years. We’re thinking about re-doing our high-end home kitchen and it’s hard to figure out what brand will be good - but Sub Zero is mostly off the list.
a_gnostic 3y ago
Engel, Miele, and any industrial brand.
marvel_boy 3y ago
Miele, it also is "expensive". On the long term is the cheaper option.
- alpaca128 3y ago
  Our previous vacuum cleaner was a Miele. It died after 20 years of use. The near identical new model still works perfectly after 5+ years. Those things are amazing.
  - twoWhlsGud 3y ago
    I'm still using the Miele vac that I bought new in 1989 (from the Whole Earth store in Oakland or Berkeley - that was a weird spin off). I brought it in for its first cleaning this year to the local vac repair store (I got a free cleaning in exchange for signing up for their discount vac bag plan a few years ago and finally found the time) and the young folks were puzzled by the made in West Germany tag on the bottom :) At this point the only thing that doesn't work is the speed selector indicator as the rubber band that connects the indicator to the selector switch failed and parts are no longer available. Compatible bags and filters, however, are still produced. Definitely not much in the way of planned obsolescence in this one ...
  - D13Fd 3y ago
    Our Miele dishwasher has been spectacular over the last 3-4 years - one of my favorite appliance purchases ever. I was less impressed with their standing vacuum, honestly. It held up OK but frequently jammed and had little issues. We eventually replaced it with a Dyson cordless that seems much much better.
  - op00to 3y ago
    I have a Miele canister vacuum. It’s great. I have a Miele HX1 cordless vacuum. It was outrageously expensive and never worked. Completely awful. Couldn’t suck up a cheerio off the floor. A cheap crappy Chinese Dyson clone worked many, many times better. Moral of the story, brands are BS.
- nunez 3y ago

What are some of the brands that you’ve seen that have those implemented-to-a-higher-standard features? I’m in the market for a new set of everything and would appreciate the insight.

timthelion 3y ago

https://www.mieleusa.com/e/refrigerators-and-freezers-1022129-c https://www.mieleusa.com/e/refrigerators-and-freezers-102212... has few bells and whistles but is a superpremium brand. I bought some of their stuff used and while expensive it has very high quality materials...

pintxo 3y ago
Note: Miele just rebrands Liebherr fridges. At least in Europe, guess the US is no different.
- MrMan 3y ago
  [dead]
- nagisa 3y ago
  Liebherr fridges & freezers are known to be very good too, if only a slightly cheaper due to carrying a less fancy trademark.
  - bombcar 3y ago
    This is another trick, find out the high quality brands and find who they're OEMing, and get those. Parts websites for appliances can be good hints.
- DrinkWater 3y ago
  That’s not entirely true. They are manufactured by Liebherr but so heavily tweaked by Miele that „rebranding“ is not exactly the right word. That doesn’t mean they are better or inferior than regular Liebherr products though.

sokoloff 3y ago

Seeing how my parents' SubZero is built and how it's performed, I'd put them high on my personal list, particularly if I was doing a custom built-in (as they did). In 24 years, they had one issue with it (was a door close switch that either failed or got misaligned). Parts and manuals were readily available and the repair was an easy DIY. That said, I bought a Samsung mid-range french door fridge from BestBuy as we aren't doing a fancy built-in at this point in our lives.

D13Fd 3y ago
I saw a more recent Sub Zero refrigerator at a rental last summer and it seemed pretty terrible. Plus I have a coworker with a Sub Zero who has been out of the office several times over the years to meet repair people, and frequently complains about her fridge. Meanwhile I have a $1k Samsung refurb that has worked flawlessly for 8 years. We’re thinking about re-doing our high-end home kitchen and it’s hard to figure out what brand will be good - but Sub Zero is mostly off the list.

a_gnostic 3y ago

Engel, Miele, and any industrial brand.

marvel_boy 3y ago

Miele, it also is "expensive". On the long term is the cheaper option.

alpaca128 3y ago
Our previous vacuum cleaner was a Miele. It died after 20 years of use. The near identical new model still works perfectly after 5+ years. Those things are amazing.
- twoWhlsGud 3y ago
  I'm still using the Miele vac that I bought new in 1989 (from the Whole Earth store in Oakland or Berkeley - that was a weird spin off). I brought it in for its first cleaning this year to the local vac repair store (I got a free cleaning in exchange for signing up for their discount vac bag plan a few years ago and finally found the time) and the young folks were puzzled by the made in West Germany tag on the bottom :) At this point the only thing that doesn't work is the speed selector indicator as the rubber band that connects the indicator to the selector switch failed and parts are no longer available. Compatible bags and filters, however, are still produced. Definitely not much in the way of planned obsolescence in this one ...
- D13Fd 3y ago
  Our Miele dishwasher has been spectacular over the last 3-4 years - one of my favorite appliance purchases ever. I was less impressed with their standing vacuum, honestly. It held up OK but frequently jammed and had little issues. We eventually replaced it with a Dyson cordless that seems much much better.
- op00to 3y ago
  I have a Miele canister vacuum. It’s great. I have a Miele HX1 cordless vacuum. It was outrageously expensive and never worked. Completely awful. Couldn’t suck up a cheerio off the floor. A cheap crappy Chinese Dyson clone worked many, many times better. Moral of the story, brands are BS.
nunez 3y ago