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How did the airline know not to sit anybody in the seat right next to the door plug (who would have gotten sucked out and fallen to their death)? Like was it re

How did the airline know not to sit anybody in the seat right next to the door plug (who would have gotten sucked out and fallen to their death)? Like was it really just good luck nobody sat there? I'm so surprised people aren't more terrified to fly. So many different things can go wrong. I know what the statistics say about driving versus flying but I feel like over time with all of these Boeing issues that statistic is slightly changing for the worse? > According to the latest estimates, there are approximately 100,000 flights per day. This number includes all types of flights, including passenger, cargo, and military aircraft. Passenger flights alone account for over 90,000 flights per day, transporting millions of passengers to destinations all around the world. I guess 365 days a year, 100k flights a day, 1 incident is really statistically low but... it's still terrifying to put yourself in a metal tube in the sky where the risk is non-zero you die!

bombcar 3y ago
Door plugged seats maybe don't have a window or something that makes that row less desirable, so it gets filled last. As to the flight terror, we're mainly scared of it for two reasons: 1. Disasters seem personally unavoidable - you can choose to drive better, etc, so any car accidents you see you can comfortably think you would have avoided. But once you're in the metal tube, you have no control over the results. 2. When it happens, it's rare and big news everywhere for weeks.
- reddit_clone 3y ago
  There is also the primal fear of falling down (I often have dreams of falling down and get jolted awake). Another major issue is the awareness and helplessness. In a car accident everything happens so fast, you only have time to go 'On Sh..'. Sometimes not even that. Some people get T-Boned and die without knowing what happened. But in case of an airliner, usually you know well ahead of time something is wrong. Engines are visibly on fire, there is fire in the cabin, it is flying side ways, it is lurching all over the place, it is spinning out of control.. etc. You have time to panic , scream, curse and cry. Personally this is what terrifies me.
  - yread 3y ago
    it takes 4 minutes of free fall to reaach the ground from the cruise attitude. Luckily for you most crashes happen during takeoff and landing
- imglorp 3y ago
  The door plugs are regular windows with a little different bezel and they put a seat row right there. I think there was a young passenger on the Alaska flight: his shirt got sucked off and his mom was helping hold him in his seat. https://imgur.com/a/Dsdt8VE https://imgur.com/a/Dsdt8VE
  - toast0 3y ago
    The door plug has a regular window, but a larger space between the window fore and aft, as the door frame area is longer than the window frames.
- tintor 3y ago
  1. Of course you have some control, like in driving. You can put on the seat belt, and not remove it until landing. When driving you have no control over other actors. In plane you have two professional pilots. 2. Traffic accidents with injuries happen daily, but very few of them are reported. That doesn't make ground transportation less risky.
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reddit_clone 3y ago
> Like was it really just good luck nobody sat there? Another point of good fortune was the altitude. Since the aircraft was still climbing, everyone was sitting down and wearing seatbelts. At cruising altitude, people would have taken off the seat belts, started moving around the cabin and got sucked out due to extreme pressure differential. All in all this was the most favourable outcome.
- MuffinFlavored 3y ago
  https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/apr/17/philadelphia-plane-emergency-southwest-landing-engine-explosion-latest https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/apr/17/philadelphi... Nightmare fuel
Erratic6576 3y ago
>I'm so surprised people aren't more terrified to fly. this fear has turned the flight industry into the safest and most responsible institution. They make mistakes, but they honestly investigate them and learn how to correct them. It’s terrifying to put yourself in a metal box at high speed in a road where the risk is way higher than in any other mean of transport
- Log_out_ 3y ago
  Yes, but a linear growing industry could hide a exponential growing error Foothill in a delivering industry quite a while, before it could not, especially if it accepted that quality control was defacto outsourced to them.. I m interested, is there a tendency to fly passenger planes as cargo planes first over the last ten years?
tintor 3y ago
You don't get non-zero risk of dying anywhere. Do you drive or ride in cars, busses, trains? There are many other daily risks other than transportation.

bombcar 3y ago

Door plugged seats maybe don't have a window or something that makes that row less desirable, so it gets filled last. As to the flight terror, we're mainly scared of it for two reasons: 1. Disasters seem personally unavoidable - you can choose to drive better, etc, so any car accidents you see you can comfortably think you would have avoided. But once you're in the metal tube, you have no control over the results. 2. When it happens, it's rare and big news everywhere for weeks.

reddit_clone 3y ago
There is also the primal fear of falling down (I often have dreams of falling down and get jolted awake). Another major issue is the awareness and helplessness. In a car accident everything happens so fast, you only have time to go 'On Sh..'. Sometimes not even that. Some people get T-Boned and die without knowing what happened. But in case of an airliner, usually you know well ahead of time something is wrong. Engines are visibly on fire, there is fire in the cabin, it is flying side ways, it is lurching all over the place, it is spinning out of control.. etc. You have time to panic , scream, curse and cry. Personally this is what terrifies me.
- yread 3y ago
  it takes 4 minutes of free fall to reaach the ground from the cruise attitude. Luckily for you most crashes happen during takeoff and landing
imglorp 3y ago
The door plugs are regular windows with a little different bezel and they put a seat row right there. I think there was a young passenger on the Alaska flight: his shirt got sucked off and his mom was helping hold him in his seat. https://imgur.com/a/Dsdt8VE https://imgur.com/a/Dsdt8VE
- toast0 3y ago
  The door plug has a regular window, but a larger space between the window fore and aft, as the door frame area is longer than the window frames.
tintor 3y ago
1. Of course you have some control, like in driving. You can put on the seat belt, and not remove it until landing. When driving you have no control over other actors. In plane you have two professional pilots. 2. Traffic accidents with injuries happen daily, but very few of them are reported. That doesn't make ground transportation less risky.
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reddit_clone 3y ago

> Like was it really just good luck nobody sat there? Another point of good fortune was the altitude. Since the aircraft was still climbing, everyone was sitting down and wearing seatbelts. At cruising altitude, people would have taken off the seat belts, started moving around the cabin and got sucked out due to extreme pressure differential. All in all this was the most favourable outcome.

MuffinFlavored 3y ago
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/apr/17/philadelphia-plane-emergency-southwest-landing-engine-explosion-latest https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/apr/17/philadelphi... Nightmare fuel

Erratic6576 3y ago

>I'm so surprised people aren't more terrified to fly. this fear has turned the flight industry into the safest and most responsible institution. They make mistakes, but they honestly investigate them and learn how to correct them. It’s terrifying to put yourself in a metal box at high speed in a road where the risk is way higher than in any other mean of transport

Log_out_ 3y ago
Yes, but a linear growing industry could hide a exponential growing error Foothill in a delivering industry quite a while, before it could not, especially if it accepted that quality control was defacto outsourced to them.. I m interested, is there a tendency to fly passenger planes as cargo planes first over the last ten years?

tintor 3y ago

You don't get non-zero risk of dying anywhere. Do you drive or ride in cars, busses, trains? There are many other daily risks other than transportation.