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Just to clarify, Capcom is not intentionally breaking Linux/proton/steam deck compatibility. They've been updating older games with new anti cheat for a couple

Just to clarify, Capcom is not intentionally breaking Linux/proton/steam deck compatibility. They've been updating older games with new anti cheat for a couple weeks and a few of them have been broken on Linux but it is just a lack of testing or incompetence, not maliciousness towards Linux gaming.

Andrex 3y ago
Honestly, that's worse. If it were deliberate there would be some feet somewhere that could be held to the fire. In the case of incompetence, everyone just shrugs their shoulders and deals with it.
bitzun 3y ago
They've been updating single player games with new DRM. Maybe it's not malice towards Linux users specifically, but I'd call it malice towards their customer base.
- gruez 3y ago
  Which games are those? At least with Rise it has coop multiplayer. https://www.monsterhunter.com/rise/us/multiplayer/ https://www.monsterhunter.com/rise/us/multiplayer/
- 0cf8612b2e1e 3y ago
  Isn’t the cat already out of the bag? If someone was inclined to crack the game, surely that work had already been done with the first release.
coldpie 3y ago
> They've been updating older games with new anti cheat for a couple weeks Anti-cheat, or DRM? They're not the same thing.
- persnickety 3y ago
  What's the difference? To me, DRM is about controlling what the user can do with your software, and anti-cheat seems to match that description.
  - coldpie 3y ago
    Anti-cheat serves a useful purpose for customers. Cheating is a real problem that can destroy online games and ruin fun for a game's customers. While anti-cheat can introduce its own problems, it does have real benefits for users. DRM has no benefit for legitimate users, it can only harm them.
    - bentley 3y ago
      > Anti-cheat serves a useful purpose for customers. Not in single‐player games it doesn’t.
      - deleted 3y ago
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      - coldpie 3y ago
        I mean sure, there's bad ways to deploy anticheat software. That doesn't mean it's the same as DRM.
  - saintfire 3y ago
    Given that product keys and activation servers are forms of DRM and not anti-cheat. I'd say that anti-cheat is effectively a subset of DRM, as it prevents unauthorized changes to the binary, typically.

Andrex 3y ago

Honestly, that's worse. If it were deliberate there would be some feet somewhere that could be held to the fire. In the case of incompetence, everyone just shrugs their shoulders and deals with it.

bitzun 3y ago

They've been updating single player games with new DRM. Maybe it's not malice towards Linux users specifically, but I'd call it malice towards their customer base.

gruez 3y ago
Which games are those? At least with Rise it has coop multiplayer. https://www.monsterhunter.com/rise/us/multiplayer/ https://www.monsterhunter.com/rise/us/multiplayer/
0cf8612b2e1e 3y ago
Isn’t the cat already out of the bag? If someone was inclined to crack the game, surely that work had already been done with the first release.

coldpie 3y ago

> They've been updating older games with new anti cheat for a couple weeks Anti-cheat, or DRM? They're not the same thing.

persnickety 3y ago
What's the difference? To me, DRM is about controlling what the user can do with your software, and anti-cheat seems to match that description.
- coldpie 3y ago
  Anti-cheat serves a useful purpose for customers. Cheating is a real problem that can destroy online games and ruin fun for a game's customers. While anti-cheat can introduce its own problems, it does have real benefits for users. DRM has no benefit for legitimate users, it can only harm them.
  - bentley 3y ago
    > Anti-cheat serves a useful purpose for customers. Not in single‐player games it doesn’t.
    - deleted 3y ago
      [deleted]
    - coldpie 3y ago
      I mean sure, there's bad ways to deploy anticheat software. That doesn't mean it's the same as DRM.
- saintfire 3y ago
  Given that product keys and activation servers are forms of DRM and not anti-cheat. I'd say that anti-cheat is effectively a subset of DRM, as it prevents unauthorized changes to the binary, typically.