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>but it's impossible to get out of the mind... That's bold. A million monks, mystics, meditators, artists and hallucinogen enthusiasts might argue otherwise.
by swayvil 3y ago
>but it's impossible to get out of the mind...
That's bold.
A million monks, mystics, meditators, artists and hallucinogen enthusiasts might argue otherwise. But arguments probably wouldn't make a dent.
- bowsamic 3y agoIt's bold to claim that we are limited to our perspective as individual human consciousnesses? I mean, I don't really care what "a million monks, mystics, meditators, artists and hallucinogen enthusiasts" say, no one really has any convincing evidence or argument that such a thing is possible. I say this as a former practitioner of Zen and still a Buddhist today, in fact from a Buddhist perspective what I'm saying is an idea in yogachara philosophy. Ultimately, I can't think of a less bold claim than "we can't leave our own minds"
- swayvil 3y agoWell as a present practitioner, I say it's possible, done every day, and more common than you think. And I don't care how many old secondhand books you stand on.
- bowsamic 3y agoAgain, that's a far more bold claim, I've never met anyone who has done it and you are the first person I've ever heard claim to know of it, even though I've been steeped in meditative and spiritual traditions for a few years now. Anyway, this is just a pointless back and forth, however you should at least out of basic courtesy not pretend to act shocked that I repeat the basic truth of 99.999% of human beings' existences. That I honestly have to say I find almost rude!