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The Canadian government's plan is import people by the boatload and hope everything from housing to public services just sort of works itself out.
by ThrowawayTestr 3y ago
The Canadian government's plan is import people by the boatload and hope everything from housing to public services just sort of works itself out.
- fidotron 3y ago"The Century Initiative (originally the Laurier Project Foundation)[2] is a Canadian lobby group and charity that aims to increase Canada's population to 100 million by 2100." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Century_Initiative https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Century_Initiative
- NoMoreNicksLeft 3y agoWhy would they want the population to grow so large?
- kelseyfrog 3y agoPopulation is power
- michaelje 3y agoMore consumers to consume
- barbazoo 3y agohttps://www12.statcan.gc.ca/census-recensement/2021/dp-pd/dv-vd/pyramid/index-en.htm https://www12.statcan.gc.ca/census-recensement/2021/dp-pd/dv... Every country with social security has to make sure there's enough young people to pay for old people.
- cbeach 3y agoSounds a bit like a ponzi scheme to me. Unless immigrants don't age?
- barbazoo 3y agoI'm probably missing something but yeah I'm assuming it is to some degree. I don't understand how it would work unless we increase the retirement age (indefinitely) or remove old folks from the pool. At this point I'm wondering WHAT IS a sustainable policy? Is there a country this all doesn't apply to that has figured things out somehow?
- zo1 3y agoWe're cattle to be farmed. More heads of cattle = bigger farm. Quality of life, national identity, indigenous populations, etc all take second place to that except in lip service and politician platitudes.
- n4r9 3y ago> Growing our population to 100 million by 2100 would reduce the burden on government revenues to fund health care, old age security, and other services. It would also mean more skilled workers, innovation, and dynamism in the Canadian economy. 100 million by 2100 is not just a number. It’s a vision for the Canada we want to build for future generations. https://www.centuryinitiative.ca/why-100m https://www.centuryinitiative.ca/why-100m Not that I agree...
- morkalork 3y agoMoney, power. Canada has a lot of space and natural resource, with proper development it could support a much larger population. Politicians seem to have an outsized view of the significance of Canada on the international stage (e.g. trying for and failing to get a seat on the UN security council), when in reality we are small and not that important. Maybe they believe with a larger population, and thus economy, there would be more weight to throw around in international politics.
- kelipso 3y agoJust speculating but Canada has large land mass and potentially much more livable area given climate change. With a much larger population driving a ramped up economy, you could imagine Canada being a global player... Lots of ifs though.
- michael1999 3y agoThere are a few groups pursing this goal: - People who imagine Canada as a global player. 100 million puts you in the big leagues. - People who fear our current demographics. Given our birth rate, our pension system is bankrupt without multiple 100k new arrivals every year. An aging population does similarly bad things to our health systems. - People who worship GDP over GDP per capita. - Our ownership aristocrats (aka the new Family Compact, a subset of the GDP group). If you own big tracts of land, or control national chains in protected industries, then your income tends to a stable fraction of total GDP. Every new arrival is a forced customer of your monopolistic supply.
- goodSteveramos 3y agoNobody pushing more immigration also supports pro-natal policies to encourage higher native birth rates.
- michael1999 3y agoThat is trivially refuted by the website. https://www.centuryinitiative.ca/our-work#focus-4-early-childhood-support https://www.centuryinitiative.ca/our-work#focus-4-early-chil... And all governments of the last 30 years have been spending money on children: Harper had sports credits, and the Universal Canada Child Benefit. Trudeau replaced it with Canada Child Benefit and has added daycare subsidies, dental and drug cover for minors. The bigger problem is that nobody in the world has figured out what effective "pro-natal" policies look like. You can't push on a string.
- michael1999 3y agoThe family compact doesn't have strong feelings about where their customers come from. But Canada's TFR fell below 2 in the 80s, and hasn't really changed since. If you have a magic wand, don't hold back. Given how old our demographics are, even if our 20-year-olds all started having 3 kids each, TFR wouldn't even climb much. Demographic decline is baked in the cake without immigration.
- goodSteveramos 3y ago
- AlexandrB 3y ago> Multiple founders and affiliates of the organization have been employed by McKinsey & Company, a multinational consulting firm. Due to this, the Century Initiative has been connected to a scandal over McKinsey consulting expenses by Justin Trudeau's government, in which whistleblowers have highlighted McKinsey's large and growing influence over Canadian immigration policy. McKinsey's influence on government policy around the world seems unhealthy.
- calf 3y agoI'm Canadian, immigrated as a child from Taiwan. It's pretty scary that the powers that be want more immigration yet don't actually have a real implementation for it. This goes against everything engineers value, obviously for many of us here. The likely consequence is a lot of harm and disruption to people in the future. I mean, I guess the real plan is the Canadian 1% exploiting a booming immigrant society.