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> I just love how Bluesky devs get hung up on technical details like this and nobody seems to be concerned in the slightest how to position Bluesky as an actual

> I just love how Bluesky devs get hung up on technical details like this and nobody seems to be concerned in the slightest how to position Bluesky as an actual product in the current market Well, this is a positioning of Bluesky in the market: they position Bluesky as an attractive product for users who are interested and knowledgable about technological topics. I guess if they have an initial user base of this group, and this group loves the product, they will take the next step and analyze how to grow from this to a larger group of (potential) users.

eli 3y ago
It's actually even less successful if that's the metric. The people who care about how it works are mostly on Masto. BlueSky has a dedicated user base, but it's not among protocol nerds.
- packetlost 3y ago
  idk, I find the protocol itself to be the most interesting aspect of BlueSky, it seems to be better designed than ActivityPub at this point.
- aleph_minus_one 3y ago
  > It's actually even less successful if that's the metric. BlueSky was founded October 2021, while Mastadon exists since 2016. The latter thus had lot more time to get traction. :-)
mminer237 3y ago
I tried Bluesky for a few days though, and I was unable to find any technological content on the site. Literally 90% of what I could find was furry porn and rage-bait. If that's their goal, they've failed and need to start over.
- jandrese 3y ago
  From what I can tell Bluesky doesn't have an algorithm. It just seems to show you the posts/reposts from the people you follow in chronological order.
  - Solvency 3y ago
    so... what exactly IS Bluesky good at then?
    - jandrese 3y ago
      It's good at showing you the posts from the people you follow. The quality of your feed is entirely up to you.
      - tekla 3y ago
        That's exactly what Twitter does. Why is this a differentiating feature?
        jandrese 3y ago
        Fewer Nazis in your replies is the big one.
        mal-2 3y ago
        Has this changed recently? When I was on Twitter a few years ago I often missed posts from my friends because the algorithm didn't show them to me. Same when I posted, often my friends didn't see it.
  - enragedcacti 3y ago
    A big selling point of Bluesky is algorithmic choice. There are three default feeds, one is "following" which is exactly what you said. If you swipe to the right you get "Discover" which is a lot like the "For You" Twitter feed. Finally there is "Popular With Friends" which is what it says on the tin. If you don't like those, anyone can develop a feed algorithm and anyone can subscribe to it, so you can have topic based feeds like "Science" or you can have feeds that just change the way the feed behaves like "OnlyPosts", which is the following feed but with no reposts or replies.
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- glenstein 3y ago
  >Literally 90% of what I could find was furry porn and rage-bait. I feel like this is a recognizable genre of comment. I consider myself a big time Mastodon supporter and am proud to be an evangelist for it. One thing you would see in HN comment threads were these first time users claiming all the content was X where X was something very unusual, extreme, and the claims regarding what that extreme thing was would be completely all over the map. They would also be subjective, hard to prove or disprove, but also way out of line with my personal experience and the experience of others who had used Mastodon for anything beyond a trial period. It looks like we're getting the same version of this type of comment now, except it's for Blue Sky. I've used the app on my phone and computer, followed a few people, followed a handful of discovery feeds. I can't really prove anything here, but I think whether it's Mastodon, whether it's Blue Sky, whether it's Lemmy, I feel like the most outrageous and unreliable comments have tended to be the genre of "skeptical new user sharing their first impression" style comments, which make broad brush claims as to what "most" of the content is on a given platform. I'm not even a fan of Blue Sky for numerous reasons I won't get into here, but I've had an account for, perhaps a few months now, but, as I often find myself saying when it comes to new platforms, it is not at all my experience that I'm seeing furry porn and rage bait. If there's any one thing noticeably unique in my experience so far, it's the general lowered temperature you feel in your feed compared to Twitter.
  - mminer237 3y ago
    I think that's because it's a hard to grow a new community. I don't think that makes it invalid. The primary reason people look for a new platform seems to be because their behavior wasn't accepted on more mainstream platforms. Lemmy has some content problems, but I haven't ever noticed it nearly as bad. Mastodon is somewhere in between, but at least there's some good stuff there. Threads is definitely the chillest microblog platform but feels a bit too artificial at times. I would personally take Twitter, even at its current state, over Blue Sky all day long.
- soap- 3y ago
  NSFW content is disabled by default and you can't ever see it unless you go out of your way to enable it.
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eli 3y ago

It's actually even less successful if that's the metric. The people who care about how it works are mostly on Masto. BlueSky has a dedicated user base, but it's not among protocol nerds.

packetlost 3y ago
idk, I find the protocol itself to be the most interesting aspect of BlueSky, it seems to be better designed than ActivityPub at this point.
aleph_minus_one 3y ago
> It's actually even less successful if that's the metric. BlueSky was founded October 2021, while Mastadon exists since 2016. The latter thus had lot more time to get traction. :-)

mminer237 3y ago

I tried Bluesky for a few days though, and I was unable to find any technological content on the site. Literally 90% of what I could find was furry porn and rage-bait. If that's their goal, they've failed and need to start over.

jandrese 3y ago
From what I can tell Bluesky doesn't have an algorithm. It just seems to show you the posts/reposts from the people you follow in chronological order.
- Solvency 3y ago
  so... what exactly IS Bluesky good at then?
  - jandrese 3y ago
    It's good at showing you the posts from the people you follow. The quality of your feed is entirely up to you.
    - tekla 3y ago
      That's exactly what Twitter does. Why is this a differentiating feature?
      - jandrese 3y ago
        Fewer Nazis in your replies is the big one.
      - mal-2 3y ago
        Has this changed recently? When I was on Twitter a few years ago I often missed posts from my friends because the algorithm didn't show them to me. Same when I posted, often my friends didn't see it.
- enragedcacti 3y ago
  A big selling point of Bluesky is algorithmic choice. There are three default feeds, one is "following" which is exactly what you said. If you swipe to the right you get "Discover" which is a lot like the "For You" Twitter feed. Finally there is "Popular With Friends" which is what it says on the tin. If you don't like those, anyone can develop a feed algorithm and anyone can subscribe to it, so you can have topic based feeds like "Science" or you can have feeds that just change the way the feed behaves like "OnlyPosts", which is the following feed but with no reposts or replies.
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glenstein 3y ago
>Literally 90% of what I could find was furry porn and rage-bait. I feel like this is a recognizable genre of comment. I consider myself a big time Mastodon supporter and am proud to be an evangelist for it. One thing you would see in HN comment threads were these first time users claiming all the content was X where X was something very unusual, extreme, and the claims regarding what that extreme thing was would be completely all over the map. They would also be subjective, hard to prove or disprove, but also way out of line with my personal experience and the experience of others who had used Mastodon for anything beyond a trial period. It looks like we're getting the same version of this type of comment now, except it's for Blue Sky. I've used the app on my phone and computer, followed a few people, followed a handful of discovery feeds. I can't really prove anything here, but I think whether it's Mastodon, whether it's Blue Sky, whether it's Lemmy, I feel like the most outrageous and unreliable comments have tended to be the genre of "skeptical new user sharing their first impression" style comments, which make broad brush claims as to what "most" of the content is on a given platform. I'm not even a fan of Blue Sky for numerous reasons I won't get into here, but I've had an account for, perhaps a few months now, but, as I often find myself saying when it comes to new platforms, it is not at all my experience that I'm seeing furry porn and rage bait. If there's any one thing noticeably unique in my experience so far, it's the general lowered temperature you feel in your feed compared to Twitter.
- mminer237 3y ago
  I think that's because it's a hard to grow a new community. I don't think that makes it invalid. The primary reason people look for a new platform seems to be because their behavior wasn't accepted on more mainstream platforms. Lemmy has some content problems, but I haven't ever noticed it nearly as bad. Mastodon is somewhere in between, but at least there's some good stuff there. Threads is definitely the chillest microblog platform but feels a bit too artificial at times. I would personally take Twitter, even at its current state, over Blue Sky all day long.
soap- 3y ago
NSFW content is disabled by default and you can't ever see it unless you go out of your way to enable it.
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