I work with one, it isn't hard to get him to start the this isn't OO it is complete and utter crap routine. To be fair to him though we just inherited a large

I work with one, it isn't hard to get him to start the this isn't OO it is complete and utter crap routine. To be fair to him though we just inherited a large code base of low quality. He turns out good code, but is mostly a 501 programmer.