> can be summarized to an endless "C++ vs Java vs C#" flamewar. As opposed to an endless "Ruby vs Python vs PHP" flamewar? Pushing the caricature a little fu

> can be summarized to an endless "C++ vs Java vs C#" flamewar. As opposed to an endless "Ruby vs Python vs PHP" flamewar? Pushing the caricature a little futher, C++ and Java are enterprise languages that only old out-of-touch programmers use. Hipster Apple-using kids encourage this kind of thinking: They would never be un-cool for choosing a language among Ruby, Python, or Lisp. It's far too easy to become that type of programmer. Choice of language has little to do with it. No doubt you understand this, just making the point clear.