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I used to fly a lot for work. I think I encountered "equipment change"[0] maybe once a month. The idea that an airline would do it as some sort of ploy to att

I used to fly a lot for work. I think I encountered "equipment change"[0] maybe once a month. The idea that an airline would do it as some sort of ploy to attract passengers afraid of a particular airframe seems...unlikely. 0 - the airline term of art for this.

Hamuko 3y ago
I think the idea that passengers would be afraid of a particular airframe is a relatively new one, so I'm not sure how useful past data is here.
- Arnt 3y ago
  It happened to the 1970 MAX 8, which was grounded permanently before Kayak could filter it, but "sales never fully recovered" as Wikipedia says. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Havilland_Comet https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Havilland_Comet
- marcus0x62 3y ago
  Hard disagree. First, when I was flying regularly, it was during the height of the original 737 Max scare, which also occurred within a few years of the CFM56 fan blade problems and the 737NG pickle fork fatigue cracking problem. It was a rough couple of years for the 737 family, yet I didn’t notice any serious uptick in equipment changes, and I was flying on airlines with a bunch of 737s in their fleets. Second, the idea of some conspiracy involving falsely advertising which airframe an airline intends to use for a flight, which would involve submitting false flight plans and publishing false flight data, is patently absurd to anyone who has been exposed even as an end-user to the tech stack of the airlines, such as it is. Between getting licensed employees to lie to the government and the airlines antiquated software, I don’t believe they could do what is being suggested, even if they wanted to.
- voakbasda 3y ago
  Look up the history of the DC-10. People have been afraid of specific airframes for many decades.
  - pirate787 3y ago
    I'm old enough to remember this, can confirm that the general public was afraid of the DC 10- the entire model was banned for a time when the FAA pulled its certificate. We're one deadly US crash from the end of the MAX and from a Boeing bankruptcy. https://www.faa.gov/sites/faa.gov/files/2022-11/AvWeek%20-%20Certificate%20lifted.pdf https://www.faa.gov/sites/faa.gov/files/2022-11/AvWeek%20-%2...

Hamuko 3y ago

I think the idea that passengers would be afraid of a particular airframe is a relatively new one, so I'm not sure how useful past data is here.

Arnt 3y ago
It happened to the 1970 MAX 8, which was grounded permanently before Kayak could filter it, but "sales never fully recovered" as Wikipedia says. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Havilland_Comet https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Havilland_Comet
marcus0x62 3y ago
Hard disagree. First, when I was flying regularly, it was during the height of the original 737 Max scare, which also occurred within a few years of the CFM56 fan blade problems and the 737NG pickle fork fatigue cracking problem. It was a rough couple of years for the 737 family, yet I didn’t notice any serious uptick in equipment changes, and I was flying on airlines with a bunch of 737s in their fleets. Second, the idea of some conspiracy involving falsely advertising which airframe an airline intends to use for a flight, which would involve submitting false flight plans and publishing false flight data, is patently absurd to anyone who has been exposed even as an end-user to the tech stack of the airlines, such as it is. Between getting licensed employees to lie to the government and the airlines antiquated software, I don’t believe they could do what is being suggested, even if they wanted to.
voakbasda 3y ago
Look up the history of the DC-10. People have been afraid of specific airframes for many decades.
- pirate787 3y ago
  I'm old enough to remember this, can confirm that the general public was afraid of the DC 10- the entire model was banned for a time when the FAA pulled its certificate. We're one deadly US crash from the end of the MAX and from a Boeing bankruptcy. https://www.faa.gov/sites/faa.gov/files/2022-11/AvWeek%20-%20Certificate%20lifted.pdf https://www.faa.gov/sites/faa.gov/files/2022-11/AvWeek%20-%2...