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Really? I like mine. Learned a lot about RFID and was able to successfully copy and clone some hotel prox card. Sure, they didn't "invent" the chips inside, but

Really? I like mine. Learned a lot about RFID and was able to successfully copy and clone some hotel prox card. Sure, they didn't "invent" the chips inside, but they put the hardware and software in a nice package, included software, and grew a nice community of hackers around it. Because of the popularity of the device, there are third parties, some less reputable than others, trying to ride their coattails. Perhaps that's what you're reacting to?

brendoelfrendo 3y ago
I was able to clone my apartment fob using a tool I got for $30 on Amazon, and it even came with extra blank fobs and cards to clone to. Flipper Zero can more than just clone RFID keys, but my point is that the tools exist to do all the things it does and do them cheaper, and they're just as easy to use. If you really need a tool that can do them all, though, I can't really argue with the utility; but I do kind of agree with the GP comment that Flipper didn't exactly do anything that hasn't been done before.
- wffurr 3y ago
  Other than create the marketing buzz and pull together a community of hackers to make the on ramp to this type of programming easier.
  - kristopolous 3y ago
    And that's really it. It's purely a marketing play. I guess my other frustration is when I see people who I thought were pretty clever not realize that
    - dinkleberg 3y ago
      No offense, but that is a pretty one-dimensional view of products and businesses. So many great products are just an exciting and/or user-friendly version of a simple concept and well marketed which opens up the doors to a much larger audience than the original concept otherwise would've received. This approach isn't a cheap cop out, it is serving a genuine utility and bridging the technology to more people.
      - kristopolous 3y ago
        I get it at this sophisticated level as well. I'm surprised by how many don't

brendoelfrendo 3y ago

I was able to clone my apartment fob using a tool I got for $30 on Amazon, and it even came with extra blank fobs and cards to clone to. Flipper Zero can more than just clone RFID keys, but my point is that the tools exist to do all the things it does and do them cheaper, and they're just as easy to use. If you really need a tool that can do them all, though, I can't really argue with the utility; but I do kind of agree with the GP comment that Flipper didn't exactly do anything that hasn't been done before.

wffurr 3y ago
Other than create the marketing buzz and pull together a community of hackers to make the on ramp to this type of programming easier.
- kristopolous 3y ago
  And that's really it. It's purely a marketing play. I guess my other frustration is when I see people who I thought were pretty clever not realize that
  - dinkleberg 3y ago
    No offense, but that is a pretty one-dimensional view of products and businesses. So many great products are just an exciting and/or user-friendly version of a simple concept and well marketed which opens up the doors to a much larger audience than the original concept otherwise would've received. This approach isn't a cheap cop out, it is serving a genuine utility and bridging the technology to more people.
    - kristopolous 3y ago
      I get it at this sophisticated level as well. I'm surprised by how many don't