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Why does this only affect the newest model?

by RockRobotRock 3y ago

FirmwareBurner 3y ago
Because only the newest one integrates the more precise sensing tech Masino claims Apple used without paying them.
- FireBeyond 3y ago
  > Masimo claims This is apologist. Masimo claims, and multiple court cases have agreed that Apple did, in fact, use patented technology without payment (and frankly, even as an all Apple person, their behavior in this whole situation was entirely shitty). Couching this all as “claims” gives Apple a benefit of the doubt, similar to the people who refer to Masimo as “nothing but patent trolls”. Previous discussions here had multiple people referring to them being “butthurt that Apple hadn’t offered to acquire them”, or that they “lacked the product chops to bring their own solution to market”.
  - ffgjgf1 3y ago
    Patent trolls have also won cases from time to time. Also AFAIK Masimo didn’t just want to be paid they wanted to have some direct on the development of Apple Watch. Also… the patents themselves seem like a joke and shouldn’t be valid.
    - campl3r 3y ago
      Masimo is no patent troll, but a legitimate company
    - FireBeyond 3y ago
      > Also AFAIK Masimo didn’t just want to be paid they wanted to have some direct on the development of Apple Watch. They had concerns about some of Apple's design and functionality decisions around the sensor on the watch. They didn't want their technology to be associated with a poorer user experience... ... you know, kinda like how Apple has a whole review process and has input on the development of your apps for their platform? Conflating that as "they wanted to be have some direction on the development of the Watch" is a notable exaggeration.
  - distracted_boy 3y ago
    According to these documents[1], Masimo applied for patents after Apple had already independently developed the software. So it appears that Masimo is in fact, a patent troll. [1] https://ipfray.com/u-s-trade-agency-itc-incredibly-portrays-apple-as-unrepentant-infringer-despite-masimo-clearly-abusing-patents/ https://ipfray.com/u-s-trade-agency-itc-incredibly-portrays-...
    - asadotzler 3y ago
      patent trolls don't sell products based on their patents. Masimo does.You either don't know what a patent troll is or you intend to confuse others here. Either way, shitty behavior on a web forum.
- Booourns 3y ago
  The blood oximeter has been in the Apple Watch for a couple years now it’s just since they stop selling old models once the new one is released is why you’ll read it only affects the two latest models.

Why does this only affect the newest model?

FirmwareBurner 3y ago

Because only the newest one integrates the more precise sensing tech Masino claims Apple used without paying them.

FireBeyond 3y ago
> Masimo claims This is apologist. Masimo claims, and multiple court cases have agreed that Apple did, in fact, use patented technology without payment (and frankly, even as an all Apple person, their behavior in this whole situation was entirely shitty). Couching this all as “claims” gives Apple a benefit of the doubt, similar to the people who refer to Masimo as “nothing but patent trolls”. Previous discussions here had multiple people referring to them being “butthurt that Apple hadn’t offered to acquire them”, or that they “lacked the product chops to bring their own solution to market”.
- ffgjgf1 3y ago
  Patent trolls have also won cases from time to time. Also AFAIK Masimo didn’t just want to be paid they wanted to have some direct on the development of Apple Watch. Also… the patents themselves seem like a joke and shouldn’t be valid.
  - campl3r 3y ago
    Masimo is no patent troll, but a legitimate company
  - FireBeyond 3y ago
    > Also AFAIK Masimo didn’t just want to be paid they wanted to have some direct on the development of Apple Watch. They had concerns about some of Apple's design and functionality decisions around the sensor on the watch. They didn't want their technology to be associated with a poorer user experience... ... you know, kinda like how Apple has a whole review process and has input on the development of your apps for their platform? Conflating that as "they wanted to be have some direction on the development of the Watch" is a notable exaggeration.
- distracted_boy 3y ago
  According to these documents[1], Masimo applied for patents after Apple had already independently developed the software. So it appears that Masimo is in fact, a patent troll. [1] https://ipfray.com/u-s-trade-agency-itc-incredibly-portrays-apple-as-unrepentant-infringer-despite-masimo-clearly-abusing-patents/ https://ipfray.com/u-s-trade-agency-itc-incredibly-portrays-...
  - asadotzler 3y ago
    patent trolls don't sell products based on their patents. Masimo does.You either don't know what a patent troll is or you intend to confuse others here. Either way, shitty behavior on a web forum.
Booourns 3y ago
The blood oximeter has been in the Apple Watch for a couple years now it’s just since they stop selling old models once the new one is released is why you’ll read it only affects the two latest models.