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No I don't. The realization that Marxist and Anarchist philosophies are stupid leaves people wondering how they can actually help others instead of wanking over

No I don't. The realization that Marxist and Anarchist philosophies are stupid leaves people wondering how they can actually help others instead of wanking over their ideology. Many people from the Occupy era have come to realize that their movement was a huge waste of time because it focused all of its energy in vague directions with meaningless slogans. I don't know Graeber's work well, but I get the impression that he feels the same.

TotalCrackpot 3y ago
You have no idea what you are talking about, because you do indeed create anarchism through creation of mutual aid networks like for example Food Not Bombs.
- panick21_ 3y ago
  > you do indeed create anarchism through creation of mutual aid networks #Theoretically
swed420 3y ago
> The realization that Marxist and Anarchist philosophies are stupid leaves people wondering how they can actually help others instead of wanking over their ideology Speak for yourself. That's a terminally online response, and lumping those two things with such a wide sweeping conclusion is meaningless. Marxism contains many parts and includes timeless methods like dialectical materialism which can be used as a framework for direct action. > Many people from the Occupy era have come to realize that their movement was a huge waste of time because it focused all of its energy in vague directions with meaningless slogans Nobody worth taking seriously would expect fully automated luxury space communism to unfold the second some disenfranchised people gather in a park, or by backing somebody like Bernie for president. Capital would never let itself lose its dominating power that easily. But the very acts of these gatherings and the energy it carries forward is not insignificant, and something is collectively learned at each turn for those tuned in. And as things continue to fall apart, more people tune in.

TotalCrackpot 3y ago

You have no idea what you are talking about, because you do indeed create anarchism through creation of mutual aid networks like for example Food Not Bombs.

panick21_ 3y ago
> you do indeed create anarchism through creation of mutual aid networks #Theoretically

swed420 3y ago

> The realization that Marxist and Anarchist philosophies are stupid leaves people wondering how they can actually help others instead of wanking over their ideology Speak for yourself. That's a terminally online response, and lumping those two things with such a wide sweeping conclusion is meaningless. Marxism contains many parts and includes timeless methods like dialectical materialism which can be used as a framework for direct action. > Many people from the Occupy era have come to realize that their movement was a huge waste of time because it focused all of its energy in vague directions with meaningless slogans Nobody worth taking seriously would expect fully automated luxury space communism to unfold the second some disenfranchised people gather in a park, or by backing somebody like Bernie for president. Capital would never let itself lose its dominating power that easily. But the very acts of these gatherings and the energy it carries forward is not insignificant, and something is collectively learned at each turn for those tuned in. And as things continue to fall apart, more people tune in.