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I'm not sure how saying that electing a serial scammer & the actual impersonation of brutal, moral-less capitalism is an example of the culture of, and linked t

by make3 3y ago

I'm not sure how saying that electing a serial scammer & the actual impersonation of brutal, moral-less capitalism is an example of the culture of, and linked to, corporations capturing politics, is a lack of critical thinking. please show your work. I think you're just one of the people who say "you can't think critically" or "you're biased" to anyone you disagree with, without actual honest structured thought yourself

dotnet00 3y ago
It's indicative because you instantly think of and whine about Trump and his voters rather than realizing that this corruption is propped up by both parties. It's as if you think history and all these issues with defense contractors started in 2016. Contractors like Boeing spread their operations across all 50 states specifically because that allows them to essentially bribe every politician with promises of creating jobs in their area. Similarly, the revolving door between defense contractors and government offices is not just a Trump thing. Democrats claim to be opposed to the "brutal" capitalism you describe, yet they support and benefit from it just as much, even with as divided as the country is right now, you'll find fairly bipartisan support when it comes to handing over money to entrenched contractors like Boeing. Hell, even now Congress is, in bipartisan agreement, trying to find excuses to write into law a means of handing Boeing $8B per year for 50 years in the form of SLS launches, regardless of need.
- make3 3y ago
  I do agree that both parties benefit, but you'll still agree that Trump is the impersonation of what is wrong
  - dotnet00 3y ago
    I agree that Trump is a particularly notable example of the issues with the country, but I'm increasingly of the opinion that not only him, but all of our ruling class is beyond redemption. It's increasingly frustrating how dysfunctional everyone is. We really should be cracking down hard on companies like Boeing, prosecute their leadership, clawback money for failures and be assertive in expecting technology transfer to backup companies for national security stuff, similar to how AMD used to be a backup manufacturer for Intel chips.
    - make3 3y ago
      first step would be to undo FEC vs Citizens United to make politicians actually work for the people instead of corruption essentially being legal in the USA https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens_United_v._FEC?oldformat=true https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens_United_v._FEC?oldform...
      - dotnet00 3y ago
        Agreed

by make3 3y ago

dotnet00 3y ago

It's indicative because you instantly think of and whine about Trump and his voters rather than realizing that this corruption is propped up by both parties. It's as if you think history and all these issues with defense contractors started in 2016. Contractors like Boeing spread their operations across all 50 states specifically because that allows them to essentially bribe every politician with promises of creating jobs in their area. Similarly, the revolving door between defense contractors and government offices is not just a Trump thing. Democrats claim to be opposed to the "brutal" capitalism you describe, yet they support and benefit from it just as much, even with as divided as the country is right now, you'll find fairly bipartisan support when it comes to handing over money to entrenched contractors like Boeing. Hell, even now Congress is, in bipartisan agreement, trying to find excuses to write into law a means of handing Boeing $8B per year for 50 years in the form of SLS launches, regardless of need.

make3 3y ago
I do agree that both parties benefit, but you'll still agree that Trump is the impersonation of what is wrong
- dotnet00 3y ago
  I agree that Trump is a particularly notable example of the issues with the country, but I'm increasingly of the opinion that not only him, but all of our ruling class is beyond redemption. It's increasingly frustrating how dysfunctional everyone is. We really should be cracking down hard on companies like Boeing, prosecute their leadership, clawback money for failures and be assertive in expecting technology transfer to backup companies for national security stuff, similar to how AMD used to be a backup manufacturer for Intel chips.
  - make3 3y ago
    first step would be to undo FEC vs Citizens United to make politicians actually work for the people instead of corruption essentially being legal in the USA https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens_United_v._FEC?oldformat=true https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens_United_v._FEC?oldform...
    - dotnet00 3y ago
      Agreed