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> They fold up in use, so the drag hit probably isn’t that much. The folding is a huge square box on top of the car, so the drag definitely increases a lot. J
by masklinn 3y ago
> They fold up in use, so the drag hit probably isn’t that much.
The folding is a huge square box on top of the car, so the drag definitely increases a lot.
Just a roof rack will have a minor but noticeable impact on drag, a ski box is 10~15% efficiency loss (http://kootenayevfamily.ca/model-3-roof-rack-consumption-test/ http://kootenayevfamily.ca/model-3-roof-rack-consumption-tes...).
This is the worst designed roof box in history, I'd say 20~25% efficiency loss is lowballing it, unless it's only ever crawled at urban speeds, slow enough that drag is not relevant.
> If he’s getting 5-20kWh per day
AFAIK the best panels are circa 25% efficient, so 20kWh/day is not even within physical plausibility, let alone actual.
I don't know if they were ever tested by independent third party, but FWIW Lightyear's estimates for their 5sqm curved solar panels (so no loss of efficiency) was 70km/day best-case (at the height of summer, with the car in full illumination at all time), at 96Wh/km (advertised WLTP) that comes out to 6.7kWh. Again, best-case, and without a Cd hit.
- Retric 3y agoPanel efficiency is calculated before rated power. 4kW * 5 hours that’s 20kWh. At ideal tilt with solar tracking you can get close to 30 kWh/day from a 4kW worth of panels in ideal conditions, but flat panels are significantly worse. The quote was 20-75 miles per day of range. Let’s assume 25% extra drag at highway speeds. That puts breakeven at 80-300 miles of highway driving per day which most people don’t do.
- masklinn 3y ago> The quote was 20-75 miles per day of range. The quote is specifically > calculations and experiments suggest that, on a sunny day, he could gain anywhere from 20 to 75 miles And according to the official site (https://www.dartsolar.com https://www.dartsolar.com) it's 9x175W.
- Retric 3y agoInteresting, I just assumed 9*220W panels but I can see why went cheaper.