Right but most people won't agree with that premise, about there being no moral basis for harm. It is weird and irrelevant to reality for most of us. If you ar

Right but most people won't agree with that premise, about there being no moral basis for harm. It is weird and irrelevant to reality for most of us. If you are trying to make a point to someone else who doesn't reject that premise, then it does literally nothing to talk about all the conclusions that follow from the premise. It only convinces your audience that they were right to ignore you in the first place because you are discussing an irrelevant contrived question.