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> They are both rigged and designed to bankrupt you They're not much worse than in what goes on in England[1], it would appear. Anyway, I said as much myself,

> They are both rigged and designed to bankrupt you They're not much worse than in what goes on in England[1], it would appear. Anyway, I said as much myself, but I was pointing out your ridiculous hyperbole. I'll say it again—a defamation lawsuit, however heavy the penalty, is nowhere close to a death sentence. This is all the more confusing, since Singapore actually has the capital penalty for certain crimes. Funny you choose to call out defamation lawsuits, of all things. > I lived there. I was there for the riots and I was there for the bus drivers strike where the police violently brutalized the foreign strikers for having the temerity to object to racial pay scales There is so much wrong with this statement I don't even know where to start. Firstly, I'm guessing you did not 'live there': you lived in an expat bubble taking home six-plus digits with your family taken care of, chauffeured between work and your Holland Village/Bukit Timah/River Valley condo in a taxi or car that your expat package paid for. Next, the bus riots started because of drunk and disorderly behaviour. The police never brutalised anyone, and there was widespread commentary amongst locals about just how many policemen were needed to control the situation, and how meek they were (which makes sense, given the civil defence and the police in Singapore are largely conscripts aged 19 – 22). Finally, nothing 'brutal' happened even in the bus strikes the year before. They were arrested, and deported. Full stop. It exasperates me to no end when foreigners nitpick on some so-called affront to freedom in Singapore (that doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things), when there are more serious and insidious issues that deeply affect the local (and even migrant populace) like male-only conscription, the skyrocketing cost of living, the car-first urban planning despite Singapore's government supposedly despising cars, and the classism and racism going on. Notice both you and someone else who pointed this out in this thread, which I upvoted—because it is fact, and not rage-baiting hyperbole. I am inclined to take anyone less seriously if they complain about 'police brutality' in Singapore. The Singapore police are amongst the meekest and friendliest lot I've ever seen. [1]: https://www.economist.com/1843/2023/12/01/britains-scariest-libel-firm-can-pursue-anyone-anywhere https://www.economist.com/1843/2023/12/01/britains-scariest-...

pydry 3y ago
>They're not much worse than in what goes on in England[1], it would appear. I've never heard of anybody ever having their life ruined because they wrote something in a blog about the UK prime minister. People write a lot of band things about him, some of it lies even. The UK's libel laws are definitely broken but Singapore's libel laws are just a weapon of the autocracy to crush dissent. >This is all the more confusing, since Singapore actually has the capital penalty for certain crimes. Yes, that's why it's called Disneyland with the Death Penalty. An article so accurate that the prime minister decided to ban Wired magazine in a fit of pique. >There is so much wrong with this statement I don't even know where to start. Firstly, I'm guessing you did not 'live there': you lived in an expat bubble taking home six-plus digits with your family taken care of, chauffeured between work and your Holland Village/Bukit Timah False. I shared a room in an HDB. I took the bus to work. I ate at food courts. >Next, the bus riots started because of drunk and disorderly behaviour. The riots in little india started because it took an ambulance an hour to arrive when somebody low on the racial totem pole got hit by a vehicle. I think they might have died. >The police never brutalised anyone There was an excellent article written in the WSJ that detailed exactly what happened to the imprisoned bus drivers during the bus strike. Yes, they were beaten in jail. Singapore does not tolerate labour power. Capital rules supreme. NTUC is an arm of the government. >It exasperates me to no end when foreigners nitpick on some so-called affront to freedom in Singapore (that doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things), when there are more serious and insidious issues that deeply affect the local (and even migrant populace) like male-only conscription, the skyrocketing cost of living, the car-first urban planning despite Singapore's government supposedly despising cars, and the classism and racism going on. Freedom of speech and labour power is necessary in order to fix these things. >I am inclined to take anyone less seriously if they complain about 'police brutality' in Singapore. The Singapore police are amongst the meekest and friendliest Oh they're fine provided you're not a migrant worker, which you clearly aren't. I'm guessing you're probably local Chinese.

pydry 3y ago

>They're not much worse than in what goes on in England[1], it would appear. I've never heard of anybody ever having their life ruined because they wrote something in a blog about the UK prime minister. People write a lot of band things about him, some of it lies even. The UK's libel laws are definitely broken but Singapore's libel laws are just a weapon of the autocracy to crush dissent. >This is all the more confusing, since Singapore actually has the capital penalty for certain crimes. Yes, that's why it's called Disneyland with the Death Penalty. An article so accurate that the prime minister decided to ban Wired magazine in a fit of pique. >There is so much wrong with this statement I don't even know where to start. Firstly, I'm guessing you did not 'live there': you lived in an expat bubble taking home six-plus digits with your family taken care of, chauffeured between work and your Holland Village/Bukit Timah False. I shared a room in an HDB. I took the bus to work. I ate at food courts. >Next, the bus riots started because of drunk and disorderly behaviour. The riots in little india started because it took an ambulance an hour to arrive when somebody low on the racial totem pole got hit by a vehicle. I think they might have died. >The police never brutalised anyone There was an excellent article written in the WSJ that detailed exactly what happened to the imprisoned bus drivers during the bus strike. Yes, they were beaten in jail. Singapore does not tolerate labour power. Capital rules supreme. NTUC is an arm of the government. >It exasperates me to no end when foreigners nitpick on some so-called affront to freedom in Singapore (that doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things), when there are more serious and insidious issues that deeply affect the local (and even migrant populace) like male-only conscription, the skyrocketing cost of living, the car-first urban planning despite Singapore's government supposedly despising cars, and the classism and racism going on. Freedom of speech and labour power is necessary in order to fix these things. >I am inclined to take anyone less seriously if they complain about 'police brutality' in Singapore. The Singapore police are amongst the meekest and friendliest Oh they're fine provided you're not a migrant worker, which you clearly aren't. I'm guessing you're probably local Chinese.