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> The Houthis provided a solution on day 1: a ceasefire to end the genocide in Gaza. Really? That seems to be funny for a group that is actively promoting anot

> The Houthis provided a solution on day 1: a ceasefire to end the genocide in Gaza. Really? That seems to be funny for a group that is actively promoting another kind of genocide as part of their political manifesto: > The group's slogan reads as following: "God Is Great, Death to America, Death to Israel, Curse on the Jews, Victory to Islam" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slogan_of_the_Houthi_movement https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slogan_of_the_Houthi_movement If you had such neighbors they might just decide to kill you if you are not of their tribe. Not sure why people would whitewash such a group of extremists.

richrichie 3y ago
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- jacquesm 3y ago
  Was there anything in particular that you felt wasn't accurate?
- ekianjo 3y ago
  I agree with general skepticism about Wikipedia but in this case it's the official motto, so there's nothing much left for interpretation.
fakedang 3y ago
Because Westerners who support extremists are extremely stupid and self-damaging. Don't take my word for it, just listen to the UAE foreign minister's view on it: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-dV4m43xZmY https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-dV4m43xZmY The West things they know Islam, specifically radical Islam, better than we do, because they did two semesters worth of courses on Middle Eastern studies at their local university.
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- ekianjo 3y ago
  So your comment says what about Houthis specifically?
  - fakedang 3y ago
    My comment implies that people who have been indoctrinated into a culture of hatred towards the West deserve no sympathy from the West. Heck, they receive none from their Arab Sunni neighbours, hence have to go to Iran for aid. One could argue that the Shia Houthis are fighting for their independence, but there's a clear distinction between an independence war and a war calling for destroying the West. That is also a distinction between the Hamas and Fatah factions in Palestine.
cbzbc 3y ago
> If you had such neighbors they might just decide to kill you if you are not of their tribe. Not sure why people would whitewash such a group of extremists. I'd have thought that here of all places people would be able to differentiate between words and actions (though we can go to the founding document of Likud and statements by various politicians next, if you like). They've been the defacto government in a large part of Yemen for a number of years, yet they haven't attacked shipping till now. When they started they were operating using cruiser rules, they escalated to using missiles without attempting to board/warn first only after the US Navy turned up. They have largely been selective with their choice of targets, which is why the Chinese are very reluctant to get involved. There's a good analysis of their current position in the latest episode of the Foreign Policy podcast Ones and Tooze ("The War on Global Shipping"). https://foreignpolicy.com/podcasts/ones-and-tooze/ https://foreignpolicy.com/podcasts/ones-and-tooze/
- theironhammer 3y ago
  Many thanks for this link!

richrichie 3y ago

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jacquesm 3y ago
Was there anything in particular that you felt wasn't accurate?
ekianjo 3y ago
I agree with general skepticism about Wikipedia but in this case it's the official motto, so there's nothing much left for interpretation.

fakedang 3y ago

Because Westerners who support extremists are extremely stupid and self-damaging. Don't take my word for it, just listen to the UAE foreign minister's view on it: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-dV4m43xZmY https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-dV4m43xZmY The West things they know Islam, specifically radical Islam, better than we do, because they did two semesters worth of courses on Middle Eastern studies at their local university.

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ekianjo 3y ago
So your comment says what about Houthis specifically?
- fakedang 3y ago
  My comment implies that people who have been indoctrinated into a culture of hatred towards the West deserve no sympathy from the West. Heck, they receive none from their Arab Sunni neighbours, hence have to go to Iran for aid. One could argue that the Shia Houthis are fighting for their independence, but there's a clear distinction between an independence war and a war calling for destroying the West. That is also a distinction between the Hamas and Fatah factions in Palestine.

cbzbc 3y ago

> If you had such neighbors they might just decide to kill you if you are not of their tribe. Not sure why people would whitewash such a group of extremists. I'd have thought that here of all places people would be able to differentiate between words and actions (though we can go to the founding document of Likud and statements by various politicians next, if you like). They've been the defacto government in a large part of Yemen for a number of years, yet they haven't attacked shipping till now. When they started they were operating using cruiser rules, they escalated to using missiles without attempting to board/warn first only after the US Navy turned up. They have largely been selective with their choice of targets, which is why the Chinese are very reluctant to get involved. There's a good analysis of their current position in the latest episode of the Foreign Policy podcast Ones and Tooze ("The War on Global Shipping"). https://foreignpolicy.com/podcasts/ones-and-tooze/ https://foreignpolicy.com/podcasts/ones-and-tooze/

theironhammer 3y ago
Many thanks for this link!