The thing is that while the two camps exist among those who say we can't get to AGI, there is no real equivalent of the first camp among those who think it is p

The thing is that while the two camps exist among those who say we can't get to AGI, there is no real equivalent of the first camp among those who think it is possible. I'm not counting the people who say it has already (as good as) been achieved, as this claim is of the sort that should have been satisfactorily empirically verified before it is made.