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> Yes he did help to design and build the rockets. By literally any definition. His impact on the final products of SpaceX is clearly larger then anybody else a
by sandofsky 3y ago
> Yes he did help to design and build the rockets. By literally any definition. His impact on the final products of SpaceX is clearly larger then anybody else at SpaceX.
Do you think he had a greater impact than Tom Mueller? I'd expect the guy who was lead on the TR-106, and already developing liquid-fueled rocket engines, had more technical impact at a space company than a guy who worked in e-payments.
> And if you actually read the books on the topic, listen to talks with people who worked with him rather then some anti-space socialists on twitter.
I find it fascinating that you use "books" in the plural, like a totally normal person would read multiple books on Elon Musk.
From my survey of the material, Elon Musk books fail to consider anything he does from a critical perspective. Perhaps that's a requirement of getting access to interviews, or perhaps the authors know their audience are parasocial fans. Are there any books that you recommend that take a critical look?
> How about we judge the company 5 or 10 years after he takes control. Tesla was a shitshow when he took over as well.
Was it? It seems Tesla was any early-stage company. When he took over Twitter, it was already making revenue and even reached profitability in 2019. I don't understand the endgame of driving advertisers away.
> Again, I love to know what he has actually done that constitutes 'act mentally ill'.
It's hard to pick just one, but I'd start with the Twitter acquisition. Specifically, the part where he felt insulted by the CEO, so he initiated a hostile takeover. Then he put together a contract that he couldn't back out of. Then he spent much of the year trying to back out of that contract by just making up silly excuses.
Following the transition, he has cultivated an image and a platform that no sane advertiser would touch with a ten foot pole. Would a person grounded in reality tell a room full of advertisers, "Go fuck yourself," and then pause for applause that never come?
Then there's all the behavior in his personal life. I'm an open minded person, so if you want to have children with two women at the same time... and everyone is a consulting adult... good luck? But not telling both women what was going on seems unwell.
If you described this behavior to someone while leaving out the names, they'd probably describe it as self-destructive.
> But go to now that you are professional therapist who can make medical diagnosis.
It doesn't take a medical professional to watch bizarre episodes by Kanye West, Charlie Sheen or Britney Spears, and know something is up. I won't venture to say Elon is bipolar or has a drug problem, but if the news came out, most people would react with, "Sounds right."
- panick21_ 3y ago> Do you think he had a greater impact than Tom Mueller? Don't fall all over yourself moving the goal post. That's dangerous. > normal person would read multiple books on Elon Musk Books on EV, rockets, SpaceX, Tesla ... But thanks for admitting that you are not actually informed. It shows. > Was it? Again, read some books. > It's hard to pick just one You have one, its bad business choices. Bad business choices don't imply mentally ill.
- sandofsky 3y ago> Don't fall all over yourself moving the goal post. That's dangerous. I don't think you know what moving the goal post means. In my original post, I said, "Musk doesn't design or build the rockets." You just said, "His impact on the final products of SpaceX is clearly larger than anybody else at SpaceX," and you claimed, "And he did work on the design and and helped build the rocket too." I asked if that includes Tom Mueller, the person with professional experience designing rockets. Because going from "fired by an e-payments company" to "designing rockets" is quite a pivot. > Books on EV, rockets, SpaceX, Tesla ... What books do you recommend? > But thanks for admitting that you are not actually informed. I like to think I'm informed because I listen to both the praise and criticism of Musk and then make up my own mind. > You have one, its bad business choices. Bad business choices don't imply mentally ill. Are you saying that driving away all the advertisers, in the way that he did, was a business choice? Can you explain what he hoped to accomplish?