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I was thinking one reason Yann LeCun would make such a terrible analogy is because he knows something the rest of us don't.

by calf 3y ago

thfuran 3y ago
And, what, you think he's working against humanity's interest in service of the secret AI overlords?
- calf 3y ago
  You're missing the point and context. Person above me says this analysis is quite telling, then points out the counterfactual historical hypothetical, which makes no sense. Yann thinks supersonic flight is not worthy of precautionary principle ethics in 1925? I'm saying the same thing--Yann's terrible, nonsense analogy is indeed poorly argued, but plausibly would make sense as a Freudian slip inconsistency of some sort. Ergo, "it is quite telling". As to what contents in his mind, or his motivations, I don't care to speculate. The fact that you make insinuations about what I think is pretty aggressive and terrible similarly, this forum ought to have better manners than that when writing replies to complete strangers. Not everyone who has a different opinion is some crypto conspiracy theorist, and you are wrong to jump to such a suggestion.
  - ttoinou 3y ago
    His funny insinuation pushed you to write a nice long argumented explanation, it worked great
seanhunter 3y ago
The thing that he knows that (most of) the rest of us don’t is quite a lot about AI.
- throwaway09223 3y ago
  If you read what Yann writes you'll pretty quickly see that he's rather ignorant about AI. His opinion is probably worse on average than the typical technical generalist's
  - kelipso 3y ago
    You'll have to be way more convincing than this if you want anyone to believe that about Yann haha.
  - seanhunter 3y ago
    That’s hilarious. I have read a few things he has written which suggests he’s definitely better than the average technical generalist. I haven’t read everything obviously but he has written quite a lot https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=WLN3QrAAAAAJ https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=WLN3QrAAAAAJ
  - danielmarkbruce 3y ago
    This is ignorant. He won a Turing award for his work on deep learning. Lots of people reasonably disagree with him about the future of AI/ML, but he's the opposite of ignorant.
  - kranke155 3y ago
    What an absurd idea to say this about a leading AI researcher

I was thinking one reason Yann LeCun would make such a terrible analogy is because he knows something the rest of us don't.

by calf 3y ago

I was thinking one reason Yann LeCun would make such a terrible analogy is because he knows something the rest of us don't.

thfuran 3y ago

And, what, you think he's working against humanity's interest in service of the secret AI overlords?

calf 3y ago
You're missing the point and context. Person above me says this analysis is quite telling, then points out the counterfactual historical hypothetical, which makes no sense. Yann thinks supersonic flight is not worthy of precautionary principle ethics in 1925? I'm saying the same thing--Yann's terrible, nonsense analogy is indeed poorly argued, but plausibly would make sense as a Freudian slip inconsistency of some sort. Ergo, "it is quite telling". As to what contents in his mind, or his motivations, I don't care to speculate. The fact that you make insinuations about what I think is pretty aggressive and terrible similarly, this forum ought to have better manners than that when writing replies to complete strangers. Not everyone who has a different opinion is some crypto conspiracy theorist, and you are wrong to jump to such a suggestion.
- ttoinou 3y ago
  His funny insinuation pushed you to write a nice long argumented explanation, it worked great

seanhunter 3y ago

The thing that he knows that (most of) the rest of us don’t is quite a lot about AI.

throwaway09223 3y ago
If you read what Yann writes you'll pretty quickly see that he's rather ignorant about AI. His opinion is probably worse on average than the typical technical generalist's
- kelipso 3y ago
  You'll have to be way more convincing than this if you want anyone to believe that about Yann haha.
- seanhunter 3y ago
  That’s hilarious. I have read a few things he has written which suggests he’s definitely better than the average technical generalist. I haven’t read everything obviously but he has written quite a lot https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=WLN3QrAAAAAJ https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=WLN3QrAAAAAJ
- danielmarkbruce 3y ago
  This is ignorant. He won a Turing award for his work on deep learning. Lots of people reasonably disagree with him about the future of AI/ML, but he's the opposite of ignorant.
- kranke155 3y ago
  What an absurd idea to say this about a leading AI researcher