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Sure, just like Sadam.. Have your seen Bush recently about that? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58DXSSBs4u0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58DXSSBs4u0 "the r

Sure, just like Sadam.. Have your seen Bush recently about that? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58DXSSBs4u0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58DXSSBs4u0 "the result is an absence of checks and balances in Russia and the decision of one man to launch a wholly unjustified and brutal invasion of Iraq.. i mean of Ukraine... heh.. Iraq too"

hammyhavoc 3y ago
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- jbverschoor 3y ago
  He said he was the was the one to launch a unjustified and brutal invasion of Iraq. To me it sounds like he did some thinking the past 20 years.
  - hammyhavoc 3y ago
    Again, who gives a shit what Bush thinks in 2024? He served whatever role he was elected for with whichever result, and the world moved on. Whatever Bush now thinks is wholly irrelevant because what happened as a result of his input on policy has already happened.
mardifoufs 3y ago
What a piece of shit lol. Even Putin at least pretends (wink wink) that he actually thinks his invasion is justified. That the US has no problem with basically not just letting this guy get away with it but even "rehabilitating" him in the past few years... it's a bit unbelievable and clearly sets the precedent internationally. This video always plays back in my head whenever I hear about how good pax americana is or how our side at least has "good intentions" lmao.
JumpCrisscross 3y ago
> absence of checks and balances in Russia and the decision of one man to launch a wholly unjustified and brutal invasion of Iraq.. i mean of Ukraine... heh.. Iraq too Uh, the Wars in Afghanistan and Iraq were sanctioned by the Congress. Overwhelmingly. Then the people who started them were replaced, thrice, giving the problem fresh sets of eyes. Comparing W. Bush et al to Putin is ridiculous on many levels, even if the wars per se share characteristics. (Most potently, in being massive blunders.)
- jbverschoor 3y ago
  Bush's words, not mine
  - hammyhavoc 3y ago
    Repeated by you in an attempt to prop up something you are failing to otherwise articulate.
    - jbverschoor 3y ago
      Oh I fully agree that the invasion was unjustified and brutal, and as he was the chief in command, he was the person who decided to do that. Although I wouldn't compare them directly. They are very different personalities, have different motives, etc
- mardifoufs 3y ago
  Huh? I mean bush was still reelected 2 twice. You are comparing a war that started 2 years ago to one that that lasted twenty years, obviously they'd get more eyes on the problem. At this same stage during the Iraq war (2 years in), bush was very popular, his Congress support was as strong as it ever was and he got reelected. In both cases, the war had massive support in its domestic population, patriotism clichés were used to drum up support etc. It doesn't matter if there is a better separation of power in theory in this case, since it didn't prevent half a million to a million people from dying due to the Iraq war. It only matters for Americans so that they can feel better about their institutions
  - JumpCrisscross 3y ago
    > doesn't matter if there is a better separation of power in theory in this case, since it didn't prevent half a million to a million people from dying due to the Iraq war Yes, war is bad. That doesn’t mean all wars are the same, nor that nothing can be learned from them. Comparing the checks and balances on the Kremlin with those on the American President is wrong; it creates a world model which won’t make good predictions.

hammyhavoc 3y ago

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jbverschoor 3y ago
He said he was the was the one to launch a unjustified and brutal invasion of Iraq. To me it sounds like he did some thinking the past 20 years.
- hammyhavoc 3y ago
  Again, who gives a shit what Bush thinks in 2024? He served whatever role he was elected for with whichever result, and the world moved on. Whatever Bush now thinks is wholly irrelevant because what happened as a result of his input on policy has already happened.

mardifoufs 3y ago

What a piece of shit lol. Even Putin at least pretends (wink wink) that he actually thinks his invasion is justified. That the US has no problem with basically not just letting this guy get away with it but even "rehabilitating" him in the past few years... it's a bit unbelievable and clearly sets the precedent internationally. This video always plays back in my head whenever I hear about how good pax americana is or how our side at least has "good intentions" lmao.

JumpCrisscross 3y ago

> absence of checks and balances in Russia and the decision of one man to launch a wholly unjustified and brutal invasion of Iraq.. i mean of Ukraine... heh.. Iraq too Uh, the Wars in Afghanistan and Iraq were sanctioned by the Congress. Overwhelmingly. Then the people who started them were replaced, thrice, giving the problem fresh sets of eyes. Comparing W. Bush et al to Putin is ridiculous on many levels, even if the wars per se share characteristics. (Most potently, in being massive blunders.)

jbverschoor 3y ago
Bush's words, not mine
- hammyhavoc 3y ago
  Repeated by you in an attempt to prop up something you are failing to otherwise articulate.
  - jbverschoor 3y ago
    Oh I fully agree that the invasion was unjustified and brutal, and as he was the chief in command, he was the person who decided to do that. Although I wouldn't compare them directly. They are very different personalities, have different motives, etc
mardifoufs 3y ago
Huh? I mean bush was still reelected 2 twice. You are comparing a war that started 2 years ago to one that that lasted twenty years, obviously they'd get more eyes on the problem. At this same stage during the Iraq war (2 years in), bush was very popular, his Congress support was as strong as it ever was and he got reelected. In both cases, the war had massive support in its domestic population, patriotism clichés were used to drum up support etc. It doesn't matter if there is a better separation of power in theory in this case, since it didn't prevent half a million to a million people from dying due to the Iraq war. It only matters for Americans so that they can feel better about their institutions
- JumpCrisscross 3y ago
  > doesn't matter if there is a better separation of power in theory in this case, since it didn't prevent half a million to a million people from dying due to the Iraq war Yes, war is bad. That doesn’t mean all wars are the same, nor that nothing can be learned from them. Comparing the checks and balances on the Kremlin with those on the American President is wrong; it creates a world model which won’t make good predictions.