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Not really suggesting Spotify pays their artists well but surely YouTube is worse, right?

judge2020 3y ago
Supposedly "between $0.001 and $0.003" from [0], but then this site[1] claims: > Plays on YouTube Music will gain on average $0.008. Although neither have sources. I imagine YouTube Premium plays match or beat Spotify on average. Of course, for anything, if you block ads AND refuse to pay for the premium subscription, the artist makes $0 from your listening. Hopefully you can support them off-platform via merch or even purchasing their albums (e.g. iTunes which provides DRM-free versions), but then you're still not paying for the platform if you continue to use one with an ad blocker. 0: https://www.lalal.ai/blog/music-streaming-payouts-2023/ https://www.lalal.ai/blog/music-streaming-payouts-2023/ 1: https://routenote.com/blog/how-much-music-streaming-services-pay/ https://routenote.com/blog/how-much-music-streaming-services... Although this doesn't take into account
- jpalawaga 3y ago
  is that true? presumably youtube still has to pay the artist for reproducing/streaming the song, even if you didn't watch an ad. I'm suspicious that the licensing agreement YouTube says "we'll pay you for the right to stream your music, unless if they use an ad blocker, then too bad."
  - lxgr 3y ago
    In the countries where Youtube has an agreement of that form with music rights holding agencies like Germany's (in)famous GEMA I'd assume that to be the case. For monetized videos, where Youtube directly pays the channel owner, I've heard a few times now that they really don't pay anything when neither ads are successfully displayed or the viewer has Premium.
- NJRBailey 3y ago
  My colleague has his music on both Spotify and YouTube Music, and he has said in the past that one YouTube listen is worth 2x as much as one Spotify listen.
  - sanroot99 3y ago
    What music does he produce?, Can you share his profile
    - NJRBailey 3y ago
      Sure, he makes Synthwave under the name Ampholyte https://music.youtube.com/channel/UCFKoFR8aNtzcK1WKfnCDyig https://music.youtube.com/channel/UCFKoFR8aNtzcK1WKfnCDyig https://ampholyte.bandcamp.com/ https://ampholyte.bandcamp.com/
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judge2020 3y ago

Supposedly "between $0.001 and $0.003" from [0], but then this site[1] claims: > Plays on YouTube Music will gain on average $0.008. Although neither have sources. I imagine YouTube Premium plays match or beat Spotify on average. Of course, for anything, if you block ads AND refuse to pay for the premium subscription, the artist makes $0 from your listening. Hopefully you can support them off-platform via merch or even purchasing their albums (e.g. iTunes which provides DRM-free versions), but then you're still not paying for the platform if you continue to use one with an ad blocker. 0: https://www.lalal.ai/blog/music-streaming-payouts-2023/ https://www.lalal.ai/blog/music-streaming-payouts-2023/ 1: https://routenote.com/blog/how-much-music-streaming-services-pay/ https://routenote.com/blog/how-much-music-streaming-services... Although this doesn't take into account

jpalawaga 3y ago
is that true? presumably youtube still has to pay the artist for reproducing/streaming the song, even if you didn't watch an ad. I'm suspicious that the licensing agreement YouTube says "we'll pay you for the right to stream your music, unless if they use an ad blocker, then too bad."
- lxgr 3y ago
  In the countries where Youtube has an agreement of that form with music rights holding agencies like Germany's (in)famous GEMA I'd assume that to be the case. For monetized videos, where Youtube directly pays the channel owner, I've heard a few times now that they really don't pay anything when neither ads are successfully displayed or the viewer has Premium.
NJRBailey 3y ago
My colleague has his music on both Spotify and YouTube Music, and he has said in the past that one YouTube listen is worth 2x as much as one Spotify listen.
- sanroot99 3y ago
  What music does he produce?, Can you share his profile
  - NJRBailey 3y ago
    Sure, he makes Synthwave under the name Ampholyte https://music.youtube.com/channel/UCFKoFR8aNtzcK1WKfnCDyig https://music.youtube.com/channel/UCFKoFR8aNtzcK1WKfnCDyig https://ampholyte.bandcamp.com/ https://ampholyte.bandcamp.com/

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