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by definition it isn't theft because you haven't deprived the owner of the original copyright infringement is a civil offence, unless done on commercial scale

by definition it isn't theft because you haven't deprived the owner of the original copyright infringement is a civil offence, unless done on commercial scale > It would be interesting to know to what extent that’s been tested, here and elsewhere. it would never even get that far in the UK court

missedthecue 3y ago
If I stole Coca Cola's recipe, or the design files for the new Nvidia chip, it wouldn't be theft then? Because they still have the original, they've not been deprived of it. I think it would be theft and I think a jury would agree.
- blibble 3y ago
  > If I stole Coca Cola's recipe, or the design files for the new Nvidia chip, it wouldn't be theft then? Because they still have the original, they've not been deprived of it. correct, it's not theft because it doesn't meet the definition of theft under the Theft Act this is not difficult to understand, it's spelt in crystal clear unambiguous language in the GPs post > I think it would be theft and I think a jury would agree. you can think whatever you want, but it would never reach the point of a jury because the police wouldn't charge for theft and the CPS wouldn't prosecute for it either because it isn't theft now if you compromised a computer system to get those chip designs they might try under the Computer Misuse Act, but that's a different offence and not theft
- almatabata 3y ago
  > If I stole Coca Cola's recipe, or the design files for the new Nvidia chip, it wouldn't be theft then? If i steal something its theft tautologically. If i break into the coca cola vault and take a the physical copy of the recipe that is theft. If i hack into the coca cola IT infrastructure and copy a file that contains the recipe without deleting it, then it is not necessarily theft depending on jurisdiction.

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by definition it isn't theft because you haven't deprived the owner of the original copyright infringement is a civil offence, unless done on commercial scale

by blibble 3y ago

missedthecue 3y ago
If I stole Coca Cola's recipe, or the design files for the new Nvidia chip, it wouldn't be theft then? Because they still have the original, they've not been deprived of it. I think it would be theft and I think a jury would agree.
- blibble 3y ago
  > If I stole Coca Cola's recipe, or the design files for the new Nvidia chip, it wouldn't be theft then? Because they still have the original, they've not been deprived of it. correct, it's not theft because it doesn't meet the definition of theft under the Theft Act this is not difficult to understand, it's spelt in crystal clear unambiguous language in the GPs post > I think it would be theft and I think a jury would agree. you can think whatever you want, but it would never reach the point of a jury because the police wouldn't charge for theft and the CPS wouldn't prosecute for it either because it isn't theft now if you compromised a computer system to get those chip designs they might try under the Computer Misuse Act, but that's a different offence and not theft
- almatabata 3y ago
  > If I stole Coca Cola's recipe, or the design files for the new Nvidia chip, it wouldn't be theft then? If i steal something its theft tautologically. If i break into the coca cola vault and take a the physical copy of the recipe that is theft. If i hack into the coca cola IT infrastructure and copy a file that contains the recipe without deleting it, then it is not necessarily theft depending on jurisdiction.