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>Everything isn't NYC or SFBay. Never said it was, I just pointed to two areas where $70k doesn't go very far. Simple as that. Edit: Your comment is very "I"-

>Everything isn't NYC or SFBay. Never said it was, I just pointed to two areas where $70k doesn't go very far. Simple as that. Edit: Your comment is very "I"-centric. Nobody cares about how many cars you have owned, because your life experience cannot be copy/pasted to everyone else. It's like you've missed the point.

swozey 3y ago
Jesus. The point was that people are, and can be content on living in SF and NYC on under $100k. It's offensive that you think that every single person who makes 70k or whatever range is living in a box filled with rats or whatever you think it is. Who do you think cooks, cleans, and serves drinks to people in SF/NYC? Sorry they aren't up to your standards living wise.
- jjulius 3y ago
  I never said they're not content. I said that people making $70k in those areas might not be able to afford the same things you can, up to and including Spotify. That's. All. I never said that that's how everyone lived, I just said that not everybody making 70k lives comfortably. That could be one person, it could be a handful. I never blanket generalized, you did by saying everyone making $70k should live just fine. All I said was, "That's not always the case", and now you're trying to say that I think everyone living in those areas making $70k are scum. You need to relax.
  - swozey 3y ago
    I definitely didn't mean to infer equitable life style, that'd be kind of goofy to think. I'm single and kid-free. I'm not saying the parent of 2 kids could or should drive a new car, or go out all the time, live downtown, etc. especially on that income. I'm sure a LOT of people live in Vallejo and work in SF for instance. Mortgages, Medical problems, alimony, blahblah. Millions of differences. I just meant that there ARE people happily living off of salaries in that range, less so in SF for sure. That's why I never moved, never felt like I could afford it, had the option to live in Los Gatos and around San Mateo (san jose for sure probably). I was curious so looked it up, 75th % salary in SFbay is $76k. 25th % $113k. These are salaries from the ziprecruiter database- I put in Bartender - $34k, Teacher - $47k, Police - $60k (I know this is wildly off not including their overtime, they make like $150-250k in sf). https://www.ziprecruiter.com/Salaries/-in-San-Francisco,CA#Yearly https://www.ziprecruiter.com/Salaries/-in-San-Francisco,CA#Y... This newer article says the amount of people in that bracket drpoped 10% 2019-2022. Wonder if that's people moving out, layoffs / biz shuttering, or maybe the covid checks ending lowering peoples income across the board. Those didn't affect the $100k+ market (limit was 80k i think?) which grew 10% regardless. That sucks if it's not them leaving I can only think of negative reasons aside from that or getting raises. https://www.axios.com/local/san-francisco/2023/09/18/median-income-decrease-census https://www.axios.com/local/san-francisco/2023/09/18/median-... Sorry, I'm just on a tangent now. Didn't mean to come off rude in general, though.

swozey 3y ago

Jesus. The point was that people are, and can be content on living in SF and NYC on under $100k. It's offensive that you think that every single person who makes 70k or whatever range is living in a box filled with rats or whatever you think it is. Who do you think cooks, cleans, and serves drinks to people in SF/NYC? Sorry they aren't up to your standards living wise.

jjulius 3y ago
I never said they're not content. I said that people making $70k in those areas might not be able to afford the same things you can, up to and including Spotify. That's. All. I never said that that's how everyone lived, I just said that not everybody making 70k lives comfortably. That could be one person, it could be a handful. I never blanket generalized, you did by saying everyone making $70k should live just fine. All I said was, "That's not always the case", and now you're trying to say that I think everyone living in those areas making $70k are scum. You need to relax.
- swozey 3y ago
  I definitely didn't mean to infer equitable life style, that'd be kind of goofy to think. I'm single and kid-free. I'm not saying the parent of 2 kids could or should drive a new car, or go out all the time, live downtown, etc. especially on that income. I'm sure a LOT of people live in Vallejo and work in SF for instance. Mortgages, Medical problems, alimony, blahblah. Millions of differences. I just meant that there ARE people happily living off of salaries in that range, less so in SF for sure. That's why I never moved, never felt like I could afford it, had the option to live in Los Gatos and around San Mateo (san jose for sure probably). I was curious so looked it up, 75th % salary in SFbay is $76k. 25th % $113k. These are salaries from the ziprecruiter database- I put in Bartender - $34k, Teacher - $47k, Police - $60k (I know this is wildly off not including their overtime, they make like $150-250k in sf). https://www.ziprecruiter.com/Salaries/-in-San-Francisco,CA#Yearly https://www.ziprecruiter.com/Salaries/-in-San-Francisco,CA#Y... This newer article says the amount of people in that bracket drpoped 10% 2019-2022. Wonder if that's people moving out, layoffs / biz shuttering, or maybe the covid checks ending lowering peoples income across the board. Those didn't affect the $100k+ market (limit was 80k i think?) which grew 10% regardless. That sucks if it's not them leaving I can only think of negative reasons aside from that or getting raises. https://www.axios.com/local/san-francisco/2023/09/18/median-income-decrease-census https://www.axios.com/local/san-francisco/2023/09/18/median-... Sorry, I'm just on a tangent now. Didn't mean to come off rude in general, though.