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“For example, when a Tesla hit a child riding a bike, a video of the child flying through the air went viral among employees. They shared it in private one-on-o

“For example, when a Tesla hit a child riding a bike, a video of the child flying through the air went viral among employees. They shared it in private one-on-one chats “like wildfire,” according to another ex-employee.” This is disgusting and if it’s true and especially if Tesla management was aware of these issues and failed to take action, we can but hope a judge and jury will see fit to award the class an enormous sum.

dazc 3y ago
'According to another ex-employee' should be enough of a red flag to answer your question.
- ImPostingOnHN 3y ago
  What makes you say that? I feel like ex employees are less likely to conceal something like this than employees. A greater red flag for me would be a denial from someone whose $100,000+ payout from Tesla depended on the denial. I'd prefer a 3rd party investigation, and I'm guessing the ex employee would, too, and that Tesla would oppose and obstruct.
- chollida1 3y ago
  > 'According to another ex-employee' should be enough of a red flag to answer your question. Do you mean that people are only willing to talk about this once they've quit the company and don't have to worry about losing their jobs to talk about this kind of ongoing behaviour?
  - dazc 3y ago
    You know what I meant.
    - chollida1 3y ago
      Wouldn't you just expect this type of self serving behaviour though? It seems like people would be far more likely to discuss this and expose it once they left the company and their job wasn't on the line than when they worked for the company.
- ethanwillis 3y ago
  There's not a single question in the comment above yours. What question are you answering?
failbuffer 3y ago
Strange how you, kind stranger, see it as disgusting but all the participants who forwarded the video apparently did not. I know I would share such a video with my coworkers (at least, over the shoulder). That's a mismatch in moral expectations. One of many in our increasingly divided society. I don't know the best way to lower/reduce such mismatches, but doing it thru the courts reactively seems arbitrary and unfair. It's hard to follow rules that haven't been written.
porphyra 3y ago
They did take action. The whole labeling team was fired. https://www.business-standard.com/article/international/tesla-fires-229-employees-from-autopilot-team-shuts-san-mateo-office-122071300362_1.html https://www.business-standard.com/article/international/tesl...
- cbolton 3y ago
  Nowhere does it say it's related to bad behavior?

dazc 3y ago

'According to another ex-employee' should be enough of a red flag to answer your question.

ImPostingOnHN 3y ago
What makes you say that? I feel like ex employees are less likely to conceal something like this than employees. A greater red flag for me would be a denial from someone whose $100,000+ payout from Tesla depended on the denial. I'd prefer a 3rd party investigation, and I'm guessing the ex employee would, too, and that Tesla would oppose and obstruct.
chollida1 3y ago
> 'According to another ex-employee' should be enough of a red flag to answer your question. Do you mean that people are only willing to talk about this once they've quit the company and don't have to worry about losing their jobs to talk about this kind of ongoing behaviour?
- dazc 3y ago
  You know what I meant.
  - chollida1 3y ago
    Wouldn't you just expect this type of self serving behaviour though? It seems like people would be far more likely to discuss this and expose it once they left the company and their job wasn't on the line than when they worked for the company.
ethanwillis 3y ago
There's not a single question in the comment above yours. What question are you answering?

failbuffer 3y ago

Strange how you, kind stranger, see it as disgusting but all the participants who forwarded the video apparently did not. I know I would share such a video with my coworkers (at least, over the shoulder). That's a mismatch in moral expectations. One of many in our increasingly divided society. I don't know the best way to lower/reduce such mismatches, but doing it thru the courts reactively seems arbitrary and unfair. It's hard to follow rules that haven't been written.

porphyra 3y ago

They did take action. The whole labeling team was fired. https://www.business-standard.com/article/international/tesla-fires-229-employees-from-autopilot-team-shuts-san-mateo-office-122071300362_1.html https://www.business-standard.com/article/international/tesl...

cbolton 3y ago
Nowhere does it say it's related to bad behavior?