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I wonder how this will affect political discourse in the USA. Legitimate question. I’m not concerned with “sides”, more interested to know if there will be le

I wonder how this will affect political discourse in the USA. Legitimate question. I’m not concerned with “sides”, more interested to know if there will be less “division/fiery rhetoric”. There seems to have been a systemic psyops campaign from foreign actors into US political “hot” topics.

mcv 3y ago
It's also possible that Russian troll factories still have their own VPN to outside the Russian firewall.
- The_Colonel 3y ago
  It's not just possible, it's very, very likely.
  - EasyMark 3y ago
    I would take 100 to 1 odds on that as well. No way the troll farms are blocked. Just scroll through twitter feed on a fresh account. Lots of obvious Iranian and Russian troll farm bots. I think if I was a billionaire I'd probably set up American "patriotism" troll farms, but they would be milquetoast and happy medium "western civilization is great bots" instead of all the hyper partisan stuff. If nothing else as an experiment.
paganel 3y ago
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- myko 3y ago
  It is a fact that Kremlin sponsored psyops campaigns worked to hinder her candidacy. The Mueller report laid this out in detail. To answer your question, I think they were wondering if this would make it more difficult for Russian groups to do perform these psyops jobs. My thought is no: these groups will likely not have to deal much with these firewalls, considering they're explicitly backed by the Kremlin in their effort.
  - myko 3y ago
    I've received some downvotes here that I don't quite understand, I am guessing folks haven't read the report or understood it: High level reporting of the report contents: https://time.com/5610317/mueller-report-myths-breakdown/ https://time.com/5610317/mueller-report-myths-breakdown/ Volume 1 of the report itself, a pretty easy read really: https://www.justice.gov/archives/sco/file/1373816/download https://www.justice.gov/archives/sco/file/1373816/download
Applejinx 3y ago
Absolutely not, this cannot be to restrict access of bad actors TO the West. This is to restrict regular old Russian citizens from getting information FROM the West. There is no chance at all that such blockage cuts off the ability to conduct military operations on the internet.

mcv 3y ago

It's also possible that Russian troll factories still have their own VPN to outside the Russian firewall.

The_Colonel 3y ago
It's not just possible, it's very, very likely.
- EasyMark 3y ago
  I would take 100 to 1 odds on that as well. No way the troll farms are blocked. Just scroll through twitter feed on a fresh account. Lots of obvious Iranian and Russian troll farm bots. I think if I was a billionaire I'd probably set up American "patriotism" troll farms, but they would be milquetoast and happy medium "western civilization is great bots" instead of all the hyper partisan stuff. If nothing else as an experiment.

paganel 3y ago

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myko 3y ago
It is a fact that Kremlin sponsored psyops campaigns worked to hinder her candidacy. The Mueller report laid this out in detail. To answer your question, I think they were wondering if this would make it more difficult for Russian groups to do perform these psyops jobs. My thought is no: these groups will likely not have to deal much with these firewalls, considering they're explicitly backed by the Kremlin in their effort.
- myko 3y ago
  I've received some downvotes here that I don't quite understand, I am guessing folks haven't read the report or understood it: High level reporting of the report contents: https://time.com/5610317/mueller-report-myths-breakdown/ https://time.com/5610317/mueller-report-myths-breakdown/ Volume 1 of the report itself, a pretty easy read really: https://www.justice.gov/archives/sco/file/1373816/download https://www.justice.gov/archives/sco/file/1373816/download

Applejinx 3y ago

Absolutely not, this cannot be to restrict access of bad actors TO the West. This is to restrict regular old Russian citizens from getting information FROM the West. There is no chance at all that such blockage cuts off the ability to conduct military operations on the internet.